Weeing + Large Crowds

[Essex_George]

I'm looking forward to all the people with strongly held views, which border on abusive outrage at times, taking people to task in June when anyone is spotted doing their business anywhere but the lavs.

Wonder if that will happen.......

Edited April 7, 2013 by Essex_George

[Paul ™]

Anyone caught doing it should have their wristband removed and ejected from the site and banned.

[mozzy]

It's a pity the public pissers' bladders aren't as empty as their heads really.

[MEGABOWL]

"USE THE LOOS. Don't pee just anywhere, the ground really can't take it. Remember there are 175,000 people at the Festival and all that urine goes straight into the water table and into rivers and streams for miles around. It isn't good for the ground and it isn't good for the fish!"

http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information/green-glastonbury/what-you-can-do

[MEGABOWL]

Anyone caught doing it should have their wristband removed and ejected from the site and banned.

[guypjfreak]

as i have said years ago people pissed anywhere ..you couldnt walk up along the railway track with out being hit by the stench of shit and piss for you newbies its now a nice walk down a country lane for us oldies its amazing how much its changed lol..

nowadays THERE IS NO REASON for ANYONE to have to piss anywhere but the urinals there are at least 3 mens urinals around the pyramid stage and there is half a field of portaloos and a urinal next to cider bus which is right next to the P.S the other stage has 2 great big blokes of portaloos either side of the stage and you can even find little mens urinals in tucked away places on route to different stages ie theres a little one tucked away on your left as you walk through the market from the P.S towards the jazz stage .

although i think they built that one for giants cos some bright spark had put breeze blokes just so you could flop you todger over the rim lol

USE THE URINALS MEN I SAY MEN COS IT IS NEARLY ALL WAYS US PISS EVERY WHERE ....soz of shouting .

happy sunday

[James Bolivar]

I try hard, if you'd refrain from underlining my errors I'd sleep better.

[Ed209]

It's actually a quite simple. Would the public pissers be happy if all 75000 in the pyramid field were pissing as they wished on the ground. If the answer is no then it's plain and simple selfishness on their part expecting everyone else to keep up the standards so they can go where they want. If the answer is yes, and they'd be happy for the field to be drenched in thousands of peoples piss then they're a total tramp

[coma girl]

I think some of these selfish idiots should read up on Wateraid's work then they would understand what struggling to find a toilet really means. Millions of people don't have access to toilets but its something we take for granted, the fact you might miss a couple of songs is not justification for pissing on the ground. Talk about first world problems.

And the blokes moaning have got it especially easy as you can use the urinals and still see the stage!

Edited April 7, 2013 by coma girl

[FunkyDenz]

This thread started with someone talking about needing to go frequently. Sometimes the need to void your bladder (urinate / pee / spend a penny / piss (delete as appropriate)) isn't just caused by the amount of fluid you've consumed. Alcohol is a diuretic, which means that even when drinking spirits, it can cause you to urinate more fluid than you've consumed (you piss more when you're drunk). Another weak diuretic is caffeine, however this is also a bladder irritant to some people, meaning that you feel you need to go despite the bladder not being full.

Other bladder irritants to avoid include spicy food, tomatoes, citric fruit and their juices (lemons, limes, orange), pineapple, carbonated drinks and (for some people) sugar. If you want to avoid the desperate feeling of needing to empty your bladder just as Sympathy for the Devil blasts out, try to avoid these foods and drinks in the hours before hand.

MDMA and other Amphetamines are also diuretics.

[Kyelo]

If Superscally is to believed it's not as bad as you lot think...

As for the bad for the environment, a fact: The solid content of urine is measured in a simple way by a test called urine specific gravity (usg), which is usuall between 1.015 and 1.030, higher if you are dehydrated. After about 10 units of alcohol, the usg will be below 1.003, which is about the level you'd see in renal failure. The amount of solids that go into the soil are virtually nil and it has as much impact as a splash of beer going on the floor. Now I'm not advocating widespread pissing, but the odd person who's gone in a cup and disposed of it on the floor has no environmental impact. The logic: assuming 10,000 people did it over the course of the day, which is a gross exaggeration of the numbers I bet, that's 5,000 litres of piss in about 10 acres on the Pyramid field, 500 per acre, that's about 500ml per metre squared, or half a mm rain (about 1/4 of the average daily amount in Somerset). That's bugger all volume, with bugger all solute in it and bugger all impact. All you need to do (and again, only do it if you have to) is be careful how you do it, and have the grace to stand in what your pour so no other sod has to. If the crowd is going mental and jumping continually, you won't be able to do either, so don't do it.

[Superscally]

Ok, so Superscally, I can read and interpret. What you are saying is that pissing when done frequently is not harmful to the environment. Don't know that I agree with that one - show me the evidence (and I will need readily sourced, peer-reviewed references; Wikipedia won't hack it I'm afraid) and I might change my mind.

What I do know, however, is that you appear to have decided that you need to keep your place in front of Band X at all costs. To not want to go to the trouble of going to the well-distributed toilets makes me think that you like a place relatively near the stage. People relatively near the stage tend to get a bit excited and jump around or dance as some may call it (reference any Youtube video you like - as long as the band is half-decent). If just one of those people bumped into you while you were "carefully" voiding your bladder it would cause your prick and the intended receptacle to part company, the contents of both may then spatter people around you. They have an absolute human right to chose not to have others' piss on them.

Stop being such a lazy, selfish tw*t.

Edited April 7, 2013 by Superscally

[abdoujaparov]

It's not lazy, it's not because I can't be arsed, it's because I've made a conscious decision to not lose my place and it's not selfish as it affects no-one but me. So pipe down you tw*t.

[Superscally]

Change the record, it's broken. I am doing what the organisers are asking, I'm just using a receptacle to facilitate the transfer of urine to the toilet. They haven't asked me not to do what I'm doing.

You're making the same point, over and over, when I've proved there's no negative effect to the environment, no risk of exposure and no risk of soiling other people. Maybe you should just give up until you have something valid to say. As it is, you're just wasting your time and winding yourself up.

Edited April 7, 2013 by Superscally

[whisty]

Change the record, it's broken. I am doing what the organisers are asking, I'm just using a receptacle to facilitate the transfer of urine to the toilet. They haven't asked me not to do what I'm doing.

You're making the same point, over and over, when I've proved there's no negative effect to the environment, no risk of exposure and no risk of soiling other people. Maybe you should just give up until you have something valid to say. As it is, you're just wasting your time and winding yourself up.

[Superscally]

I never said I had done that. I said I'd used a cup and poured it where I stood. I watched it disappear into the ground. I also said I don't do that any more. I also said I personally don't mind if people did it as long as they stuck to certain principles, which if you read the whole thread, you'd know what they are. My story hasn't changed. I am dealing in facts, unlike some.

[abdoujaparov]

Change the record, it's broken. I am doing what the organisers are asking, I'm just using a receptacle to facilitate the transfer of urine to the toilet. They haven't asked me not to do what I'm doing.

You're making the same point, over and over, when I've proved there's no negative effect to the environment, no risk of exposure and no risk of soiling other people. Maybe you should just give up until you have something valid to say. As it is, you're just wasting your time and winding yourself up.

[whisty]

You pour it or it comes straight out there's no difference. It's disgusting, anti social, selfish, unhealthy & bad for the environment.

Edited April 7, 2013 by whisty

[James Bolivar]

Here you go:

Lawson DM. (1977)

The dipsogenic effect of alcohol and the loss of control phenomenon

Adv Exp Med Biol. 85B:547-68.

[Superscally]

Abdou - I have never pissed directly on the ground at Glastonbury and have never said I have so you are wrong. I wasn't advocating that people piss on the ground randomly. I was saying I have no problem with people doing it if they feel they have to. If people exercise strict standards, it will be a rare event. I've done 9 Glastonburys, had probably about 500 pisses and 2 have gone on the floor. That's not very much. I have only ever poured it on the ground twice. Do I wish I had a bottle with me then? Yes. Would I have used it? Yes. I've never been celebrating my slips in the past.

Your point that I only care about myself is wrong. If I did, I wouldn't have kept posting on here, saying what I think people should do if they are contemplating it. My viewpoints are aligned with the principles behind yours, just that I'm using facts, logic and potential solutions to a problem rather than just bluster. I don't care what you think about me to be honest, as I know I'm doing nothing that affects others. I am also prepared to make my valid points that the occasional incident of people weeing on the floor in extremis is not the key to the ruination of society as you seem to imply it is. The fact that you're too thick to see what I'm saying is your issue.

Whisty - you dumbass - note the use of the word POUR and not PISS.

Bolivar - it has the effect on your bladder as well. Or maybe your shit smells of roses. Child? Brilliant you muppet. I didn't even say I was involved. However, it wouldn't be a bad thing to be childish. Maybe you should embrace your inner child more and then you wouldn't be such a sour arse. Finally - it hasn't affected anyone as no-one has ever seen me do it or come into contact with any of it, so keep your wrong opinions to yourself.

Edited April 7, 2013 by Superscally

[abdoujaparov]

Abdou - I have never pissed directly on the ground at Glastonbury and have never said I have so you are wrong. I wasn't advocating that people piss on the ground randomly. I was saying I have no problem with people doing it if they feel they have to. If people exercise strict standards, it will be a rare event. I've done 9 Glastonburys, had probably about 500 pisses and 2 have gone on the floor. That's not very much. I have only ever poured it on the ground twice. Do I wish I had a bottle with me then? Yes. Would I have used it? Yes. I've never been celebrating my slips in the past.

Your point that I only care about myself is wrong. If I did, I wouldn't have kept posting on here, saying what I think people should do if they are contemplating it. My viewpoints are aligned with the principles behind yours, just that I'm using facts, logic and potential solutions to a problem rather than just bluster. I don't care what you think about me to be honest, as I know I'm doing nothing that affects others. I am also prepared to make my valid points that the occasional incident of people weeing on the floor in extremis is not the key to the ruination of society as you seem to imply it is. The fact that you're too thick to see what I'm saying is your issue.

Whisty - you dumbass - note the use of the word POUR and not PISS.

[zero000]

This thread started with someone talking about needing to go frequently. Sometimes the need to void your bladder (urinate / pee / spend a penny / piss (delete as appropriate)) isn't just caused by the amount of fluid you've consumed. Alcohol is a diuretic, which means that even when drinking spirits, it can cause you to urinate more fluid than you've consumed (you piss more when you're drunk). Another weak diuretic is caffeine, however this is also a bladder irritant to some people, meaning that you feel you need to go despite the bladder not being full.

Other bladder irritants to avoid include spicy food, tomatoes, citric fruit and their juices (lemons, limes, orange), pineapple, carbonated drinks and (for some people) sugar. If you want to avoid the desperate feeling of needing to empty your bladder just as Sympathy for the Devil blasts out, try to avoid these foods and drinks in the hours before hand.

MDMA and other Amphetamines are also diuretics.

[pie_and_a_pint]

I never said I had done that. I said I'd used a cup and poured it where I stood. I watched it disappear into the ground. I also said I don't do that any more. I also said I personally don't mind if people did it as long as they stuck to certain principles, which if you read the whole thread, you'd know what they are. My story hasn't changed. I am dealing in facts, unlike some.

Edited April 7, 2013 by pie_and_a_pint

[redmosquito]

So of this June is going to be lovely an sunny so there will be need to wear a poncho. Are you just going to whip out Superscally jnr and slash into your cup/bottle without the shelter of your poncho? With no poncho are you going to risk scaring those around you for life??

[Superscally]

It's really very simple. There are never circumstances at Glastonbury in which disposing of your urine on the ground is necessary. There are toilets. The issue is whether you put your own selfish considerations - your desire to keep "your" place - ahead of the wishes of the land owners and festival organisers and of other people.