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[biffoire]

Smart and ethical ( unlike the Pearl Jam leaking:-))

[mrtourette]

Apparently Gazza once said that Kiss weren't big enough to headline, some people disgareed, now there's been a rumour they're headlining the second stage and Gazza's all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake, using it as proof that he was correct.

If it's true then it does mean he's correct, although some people are arguing because i) there's no 'proof' yet, ii) he's acting like a bt of a wally, iii) it's a fairly vague prediction and not exactly something that you can claim to be right over (if he'd said they would headline the second stage then that's something to boast about), and iv) people think it's a bit rich him getting on his high horse about it when for the 24,731 predicitons he gets wrong he brushes them off with "it was just a prediction, I wasn't saying it was going to happen".

[jump]

Apparently Gazza once said that Kiss weren't big enough to headline, some people disgareed, now there's been a rumour they're headlining the second stage and Gazza's all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake, using it as proof that he was correct.

If it's true then it does mean he's correct, although some people are arguing because i) there's no 'proof' yet, ii) he's acting like a bt of a wally, iii) it's a fairly vague prediction and not exactly something that you can claim to be right over (if he'd said they would headline the second stage then that's something to boast about), and iv) people think it's a bit rich him getting on his high horse about it when for the 24,731 predicitons he gets wrong he brushes them off with "it was just a prediction, I wasn't saying it was going to happen".

Edited November 9, 2012 by jump

[TYLER_4]

I think KISS could still headline with two other decent headliners with them. Soni isnt a good example of this!

IF DL get KISS on the 2nd stage they will be over the moon, im sure of it.

[eFestivals]

I think KISS could still headline with two other decent headliners with them.

well, yeah, they could. But the promoter would be disappointed with them, because they wouldn't be responsible for shifting the number of tickets that would be expected of a headliner.

The very first thing a promoter thinks about any band is how many tickets they'll shift. While they're happy to have bands on the bill who aren't really responsible for shifting any tickets in their own right because they help flesh out the bill to make it more attractive overall, the promoter can't take that attitude towards a headliner. The headliners are the driving force for the whole event - if a promoter gets those wrong then it risks undermining the whole event, as Soni demonstrated this year.

Kiss have shown they can't sell UK festival tickets in the numbers that are required of a headliner for a big fest. I'll be hugely surprised if any promoter went or them again as headliner of an event the size of Soni or bigger.

Edited November 9, 2012 by eFestivals

[Black_Crow]

Nope. I say you're a worthless lying soni-fanboy c**t because you're a worthless lying soni-fanboy c**t.

You believing it's said for other reasons is just another 'wrong' to add to the huge list of all the very wrong things you've said previously.

[eFestivals]

Having to resort to slander, because you're arguement is very weak.

I'm not making any argument at all. I'm calling you the liar that you are.

FFS. If I said you had a brain the size of a pea I'd be being unfair to peas.

What part of there being no substance to the lies you are making don't you get???

It is not slanderous to call a liar a liar. If you don't want to be called a liar, stop lying.

Got that c**ty face???

[Black_Crow]

I'm not making any argument at all. I'm calling you the liar that you are.

FFS. If I said you had a brain the size of a pea I'd be being unfair to peas.

What part of there being no substance to the lies you are making don't you get???

It is not slanderous to call a liar a liar. If you don't want to be called a liar, stop lying.

Got that c**ty face???

[lharris92]

in other news...

everyone bombard download forums to get InMe to play

[eFestivals]

Except I'm not a liar, I haven't lied once on here. It sounds to me that you are the one with a guilty conscience.

Calling someone thick or a c*nt isn't helping your case either.

Oh do fuck off you small minded moron with a massive aversion to the facts.

You said:-

You clearly said that Sonisphere wouldn't return unless they went with your idea of turning it in to an Indie fest. You said it was finished.

you said:-

You said you don't print articles or rumours without solid evidence, by printing the rumour from Metaltalks, you have pretty much said as such. You have said frequently in this thread that Kiss aren't big enough to headline and are a 2nd stage headliner at best, so pretty much backing up the article. Know you deny even saying that.

Both are only your fantasies, I've never said either thing. You LIED!!!!

Now, either prove me wrong, or prove yourself a liar.

[gazza_20]

If Kiss aren't headlining the second stage, will Gazza offer a full retraction and admit that there is no proof that he is right?

[mrtourette]

I didn't say I was right that they would headline 2nd. I said they aren't main stage headliner status anymore.

[jump]

http://kissmaskwebzi...d-festival.html

KISS are gonna be announced today apparently.

[mrtourette]

This means we're going to have to start believeing all of Gazza's other predictions. My head will explode.

[jump]

This means we're going to have to start believeing all of Gazza's other predictions. My head will explode.

[eFestivals]

http://kissmaskwebzi...d-festival.html

KISS are gonna be announced today apparently.

that was written on Monday.

I'd say it's not going to be announced today now - it's pretty rare for press releases to come in later than now on a Friday.

[Black_Crow]

Oh do fuck off you small minded moron with a massive aversion to the facts.

Now, either prove me wrong, or prove yourself a liar.

[5co77ie]

http://kissmaskwebzi...d-festival.html

KISS are gonna be announced today apparently.

Edited November 9, 2012 by 5co77ie

[eFestivals]

Yet again going down the route of trying to insult someone, simply because you don't know how to argue with someone, it says more about you than it does me.

You're not getting it. i'm not insulting you, I'm making a statement of fact.

You are a c**t, because you are deliberately lying.

As to trying to prove you wrong, I don't need to, everyone already knows. Reiterating a word against someone multiple times doesn't make it true.

Oh dear. Oh dear. You really are determined to prove yourself the lying c**t.

You could easily quote my words which you say I've posted.

You don't quote them because they don't exist. Which makes you a liar and a c**t.

[Black_Crow]

You're not getting it. i'm not insulting you, I'm making a statement of fact.

You are a c**t, because you are deliberately lying.

Oh dear. Oh dear. You really are determined to prove yourself the lying c**t.

You could easily quote my words which you say I've posted.

You don't quote them because they don't exist. Which makes you a liar and a c**t.

[biffoire]

I'm not going to quote multiple messages, beause I'm wrong.

Edited November 9, 2012 by biffoire

[mrtourette]

What's that phrase about arguing with idiots on the internet?

[lharris92]

What's that phrase about arguing with idiots on the internet?

Edited November 9, 2012 by lharris92

[eFestivals]

This is getting tiresome, calling me a c*nt and a liar multiple times in one post doesn't make it true, you may think this psychology works, but it really doesn't. You're just making yourself look foolish.

I'm not going to quote multiple messages, beause I don't have the time nor the patience to go through every single thread looking and you know this that's why you're challenging me to do so.

I'm a much more simple type than you're thinking. There's no insults, there's no psychology. There's just me, saying what I think, because I'm not scared of my own thoughts, and neither am I scared of your words or how mine might look.

What I do care about is you writing lies about me.

You know you're writing lies. That makes you a c**t.

Put up or shut up. Either prove my words or do the decent thing, or find that c**ts like you get treated back as a c**t, here at least.

[Black_Crow]

I'm a much more simple type than you're thinking. There's no insults, there's no psychology. There's just me, saying what I think, because I'm not scared of my own thoughts, and neither am I scared of your words or how mine might look.

What I do care about is you writing lies about me.

You know you're writing lies. That makes you a c**t.

Put up or shut up. Either prove my words or do the decent thing, or find that c**ts like you get treated back as a c**t, here at least.