Football 2010-2011

[Steve P]

sorry but I disagree entirely. f**k fifa, why should the journos keep schtum to give us a chance to win the bid? its about time the whole f**king organisation was hauled over the coals. football is a sport rife with corruption, and I say it should be exposed at every opportunity.

[ralph250]

I think its a bit premature to start talking about Bale moving here, there and everywhere based on a few games.

Who's he as good as/better than in Europe?

[pink_triangle]

chuckled to 5live the other day saying "is Bale the best player in the world at the moment?"

um, mr ronaldo with 11 in his last 7, and Mr Messi with 8 in last 7 disagree.

Ronaldo at madrid: 46 in 49.

In the same period. Messi 62 in 66.

Absolute monsters.

[Cardboard Box City]

chuckled to 5live the other day saying "is Bale the best player in the world at the moment?"

um, mr ronaldo with 11 in his last 7, and Mr Messi with 8 in last 7 disagree.

Ronaldo at madrid: 46 in 49.

In the same period. Messi 62 in 66.

Absolute monsters.

Edited November 4, 2010 by Cardboard Box City

[funkymp]

chuckled to 5live the other day saying "is Bale the best player in the world at the moment?"

um, mr ronaldo with 11 in his last 7, and Mr Messi with 8 in last 7 disagree.

Ronaldo at madrid: 46 in 49.

In the same period. Messi 62 in 66.

Absolute monsters.

[ampersand]

i notice a trend in the players that people are saying. there's more to football than strikers and goals.

[pink_triangle]

i notice a trend in the players that people are saying. there's more to football than strikers and goals.

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i notice a trend in the players that people are saying. there's more to football than strikers and goals.

[ampersand]

This isn't an Italian forum.

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que?

[The Nal]

que?

just think it's silly to say 'bale hasn't been as good as ronaldo cos he's scored 46 in 49'.

[funkymp]

que?

just think it's silly to say 'bale hasn't been as good as ronaldo cos he's scored 46 in 49'.

Edited November 5, 2010 by funkymp

[eFestivals]

On a different person but still world class players, anyone see Gerrard back to form last night?

He played like he hasn't for well over a year, and drove them on for the win like he used to. Perhaps it's form he'll keep up from now on.

But I doubt it. While he was clearly enjoying himself and did make a huge difference, he looked far too knackered by half way thru the second half - and he'd only been on the pitch since half time. I'd say a big part of his drop in form is down to fitness and nothing else.

[Steve P]

I agree here, but the difference is the likes of Ronaldo / Messi / Drogba / Xavi / Sneijder / Iniesta / Etoo etc have been in the form they are now for a good couple of years. Forgetting strikers, Ashley Cole has been the best left back in England and possibly one of the best in the world for the last year or so.

Bale's had 2 good games against the european champions, been marked out of the Everton / Man U games by Phil Neville and Rafael respectively and people are claiming he is one of the best players in the world 'at the moment' based on his 2 games against Inter - it's fricking madness.

If you want to talk wingers (which Bale pretty much is at the mo) in England - Malouda has been in absolutely phenomenal form since last March unlike Bale, likewise with Nani yet you dont see the media climbing into there arses every day of the week.

[pink_triangle]

Why? Bale has been good for maybe three games this season. He didn’t get a kick against Everton or Utd.

[pink_triangle]

Yes the praise being lavished on Bale is over the top, but he is a top player. Wish he was english as he's just the sort of player our national team needs.

[Steve P]

On a different person but still world class players, anyone see Gerrard back to form last night?

He played like he hasn't for well over a year, and drove them on for the win like he used to. Perhaps it's form he'll keep up from now on.

But I doubt it. While he was clearly enjoying himself and did make a huge difference, he looked far too knackered by half way thru the second half - and he'd only been on the pitch since half time. I'd say a big part of his drop in form is down to fitness and nothing else.

[The Nal]

On a different person but still world class players, anyone see Gerrard back to form last night?

He played like he hasn't for well over a year, and drove them on for the win like he used to. Perhaps it's form he'll keep up from now on.

But I doubt it. While he was clearly enjoying himself and did make a huge difference, he looked far too knackered by half way thru the second half - and he'd only been on the pitch since half time. I'd say a big part of his drop in form is down to fitness and nothing else.

[pink_triangle]

If you want to talk wingers (which Bale pretty much is at the mo) in England - Malouda has been in absolutely phenomenal form since last March unlike Bale, likewise with Nani yet you dont see the media climbing into there arses every day of the week.

[eFestivals]

The 3 goals he scored though were all down to huge defensive errors though, rather than things he created himself. Good to see him getting into decent positions, but all 3 goals were gifts.

Hmmm, not sure I completely agree that they weren't things he created (tho of course the penalty wasn't).

Not so many players would have bothered going for the back-passed ball via which he got his first, and while the defender was caught napping by Lucas for the third, that was a nicely worked attack by the three players involved.

I agree that defensive errors gave the opportunities, but that's very often the case for goals scored by anyone.

The main point I was making tho about his performance was the way he picked the whole team up (they all played better when he was on the pitch) and drove them on for the win - it was like the Gerrard of old, that's not been seen for a while.

I was very surprised to hear it was only his 4th ever hat-trick. I'd have thought he'd have got more than that over the years.

[Halcyon]

FIVE-WAY BATTLE EXPLAINED

1 ALONSO 231pts

2 WEBBER 220pts

3 HAMILTON 210pts

4 VETTEL 206pts

5 BUTTON 189pts

If Alonso wins in Brazil, he will be champion unless Webber is higher than fourth

If Alonso is second, he will be champion unless Webber is higher than eighth, Hamilton higher than fourth or Vettel wins

If Alonso is third, he will be champion unless Webber finishes in the top 10, Hamilton in the top four and Vettel in the top three

If Alonso does not finish on the podium, it will go to Abu Dhabi

Button can only stay in contention if he finishes first or second but is out if Alonso finishes in the top six or if Webber is in the top two

Vettel must beat Alonso on track to stay in contention

[ampersand]

lol @ halcyon

[Steve P]

FIVE-WAY BATTLE EXPLAINED

1 ALONSO 231pts

2 WEBBER 220pts

3 HAMILTON 210pts

4 VETTEL 206pts

5 BUTTON 189pts

If Alonso wins in Brazil, he will be champion unless Webber is higher than fourth

If Alonso is second, he will be champion unless Webber is higher than eighth, Hamilton higher than fourth or Vettel wins

If Alonso is third, he will be champion unless Webber finishes in the top 10, Hamilton in the top four and Vettel in the top three

If Alonso does not finish on the podium, it will go to Abu Dhabi

Button can only stay in contention if he finishes first or second but is out if Alonso finishes in the top six or if Webber is in the top two

Vettel must beat Alonso on track to stay in contention

Edited November 5, 2010 by Steve P

[ampersand]

Blimey, what a league that is. Not heard of those teams before though.

[Halcyon]

oh balls... that should have gone in the F1 thread.

They both begin with F dammit!