World Cup 2010

[pink_triangle]

I would go for the first option, both have looked pretty organised in defence.

[gratedenini]

I`m struggling to get me arse into gear to get interested again in the WC.

Todays game is a very difficult one to call with every option in terms of result a def possibility.

If this If that.

I hope its Holland who score first.But i can see it being a bit like the Brazil / Portugal game.

I`ll go with Holland sneaking it.

den

[ampersand]

jesus, this forum has bloody died.

fab stays and not a single comment.

and i wish robben would stop trying so hard...

[oafc0000]

Brazil have blown it

Right decision to keep Fabio probably...

[funkymp]

red tops are gonna hate this FA decision

holland - brazil is rather good, sneijder / robben both playing great (robben really knows how to piss off the opposition doesn't he)

[The Nal]

Brazil gone!!

[oafc0000]

Brazil gone!!

[gratedenini]

The Coleman game of two halves or what. Brazil done nowt in the 2nd half and Holland thoroughly deserved to win.

I`m pleased if only in the knowledge we wont have to listen to all the expletives from these f**kin ITV commentator re Brazil being "the greatest footballing nation on Earth" even though they got knocked out in the Quarters...which---which is only ONE stage further than England got lets not forget ;-)

[gratedenini]

The Coleman game of two halves or what. Brazil done nowt in the 2nd half and Holland thoroughly deserved to win.

I`m pleased if only in the knowledge we wont have to listen to all the expletives from these f**kin ITV commentator re Brazil being "the greatest footballing nation on Earth" even though they got knocked out in the Quarters...which---which is only ONE stage further than England got lets not forget ;-)

[rexclark]

Was really hoping for a Brazil - Argentina final, so now I recon it'll be a Holland - Argentina. I think it's wide open now and if Spain can up there game they could get to the final over Argentina. Although I really like Spain I really don't want another all European final.

[gratedenini]

Mind --after earlier games---Europe weren`t looking so good were we.

I dont care now actually although I would like to see Maradonna crying if they lose.

Whats the odds that this commentator in the Uraguay / Ghana game will say something like.... "could that be the end of the African Dream" or "they`ve brought so much to the competition"

den

[pink_triangle]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/World-Cup-Ghana-players-party-in-casino-until-2am-ahead-of-Uruguay-quarter-final-article503947.html

I love this story, can you imgagine what would have happened if the england squad did the same!

[pink_triangle]

Brazil have blown it

Right decision to keep Fabio probably...

[gratedenini]

Agreed, theres no point paying him off to employ someone less competent just because they are english. I heard redknapp on the radio today claiming england had better players than brazil and holland. This confirms my thoughts it would have been more of the same if he had taken over.

[minute5072]

WHY YOU PUT POWER!

Gutted for Ghana

[pink_triangle]

Thing is--- England dont have bad players...each one of em are good,decent players--a few of whom would get into any club side in the World. I honestly dont think Brazil have been very good. Holland, without Robben really lacked width.

I massively believe that if we could somehow mould our lads into a team---and thats the operative word... team, then we`d be much much better.

Would any one of us have swapped the way qualification went? NO.

[gratedenini]

WHY YOU PUT POWER!

Gutted for Ghana

[ralph250]

Never a free kick

Edited July 2, 2010 by ralph250

[gratedenini]

I dont doubt that england have decent players, however I think some of these pundits forget that life exists outside the premiership and that other countries have good players as well. All qualification really showed was england are better than ukraine and croatia, it didnt count for anything when the tournament started. Saying that from memory holland qualified well and have taken that form over.

[funkymp]

i`m at a loss where it actually went wrong between qualification and the kick off here.

[oafc0000]

Who should Fabio keep / drop ?

Rob Green - not good enough

David James - too old

Joe Hart - keep

Rio Ferdinand - too old

Ashley Cole - keep

Glen Johnson - keep

John Terry - too old

Jamie Carragher - too old

Stephen Warnock - no feelings

Matthew Upson - drop

Ledley King - sick note drop

Gareth Barry - keep

Michael Carrick - drop

Joe Cole - keep

Steven Gerrard - keep

Frank Lampard - too old

Aaron Lennon - drop crap

James Milner - keep

Shaun Wright-Phillips- drop crap

Wayne Rooney - keep

Emile Heskey - too old

Jermain Defoe - keep

Peter Crouch - keep

So I would stick with 11 out of 23 and look for young replacements for the rest and take our chances. What is coming through to take up this slack ? Not a lot...

[pink_triangle]

I agree with most of that, hoever as you say the difficulty is coming up with 11 players to take their place. Foster, Gibbs, Rodwell, Johnson, Young, Abonglahor, Walcott. Now Im struggling. Even in that list, Im not sure how many I can see being any more than squad players.

[funkymp]

i'd get rid of glen johnson, can't defend to save his life, absolutely no idea who england would have at right back instead though, not like theres a abundance of good english right backs in england

edit: i wouldn't be surprised at all if the hungary friendly has pretty much exactly the same starting 11 as the team that lost to the germans btw

Edited July 3, 2010 by funkymp

[pink_triangle]

because they thought they could just turn up and win the thing? the group they got through qualification to get to the world cup was easy to get out of (croatia are getting worse by the year, ukraine likewise), the whole from qualification to the actual world cup itself has just been built up by the media to make the players believe they are 'that' good.

for god knows how long the players have read in the papers etc how 'amazing' / 'the golden generation' and how the whole team is world class, when infact it's nowhere near that. lahm summed it up pretty nice - we haven't been a 'big' team at international level for decades and the rate things are going - we won't be either.

[ste4_20]

Who should Fabio keep / drop ?