Boycott 2010 is something isn't done!

[eFestivals]

Merely sticking up for people...something that doesnt happen very often in here it aint high horsing, its looking out and being supportive for fellow folk. That is no crime in my book and a perfectly legitimate thing to do on a public forum when you feel like there is bullying, bad behaviour and ill will being directed to a fellow boarder...and if anyone has noticed...this particular thread is very boycentric in its opinions for some reason!

no, there are OPINIONS being expressed back at someone's opinions.

Just because those opinions are not all complimentary doesn't make them "bullying, bad behaviour or ill will". People are entitled to comment, and to express their views. If their view is that the Op is (say) "insane" then that's a view they're entitled to hold, however wrong it might be.

Meanwhile, posts such as your own can be considered no less "bullying, bad behaviour or ill will", as your post is designed to stifle free and fair comment and discussion on the subject raised by the OP without making any further useful contribution to the discussion.

As for your sexism... well.... It's sexism! PEOPLE have opinions. If it's blokes making "negative" comments here then perhaps it's because there's some blokes without their heads in the clouds?

We all have our views, and we all have our views of others views. This forum is for discussion of *all* Glasto subjects, not the subset you'd like with only the responses you'd like - I don't give myself that privilege so I'm certainly not going to give it to you. If you want clique there's plenty of other places that do it extremely well.

[kyjenni]

this girl is 29 years old and only now she has realised the problems with the festival faces in terms of clear up etc? where has she been for the rest of her life?

Forgive me for not seeing her as the messiah just because for the first time in her self absorbed life she has realised what clearing up the festival site entails.

As for her "ideas" they have all been thought of and rejected by people with far more experience than someone who spent couple of days on site being humoured by the people that actually know what they are doing.

Her "campaign" is an utter farce.

Save the festival by boycotting it!? She is insane.

[ukslim]

£10 a hour you say, considering I worked for £6.34 litterpicking I'd be fighting people off to get there!!! Let me know when it happen

[FunkyDenz]

I thought there were fish already in the pond by the dragon? I'm fairly sure I didn't imagine it... I know I saw fish somewhere!!!

[russycarps]

I was going to let this comment pass me by but I've just changed my mind. How dare you judge me or pass any comment about my life and how I've been leading it up until this point when you have no idea who I am? Meet me and then judge me. Let me know a time and place and we can go have a drink but I'm not prepared to tollerate this kind of shit and abuse on a message board. Have a contructed arguement and have a different opinion to me and I'll have no problem with that but what you have written above hasn't really done you any favours.

I am the least selfish person around and am always looking out for others.

I am done with you now, piss off.

[kyjenni]

you've been to the festival twice, yet you are preaching to us, many of whom have been going for years and years and years? And on top of that you intend passing on your "ideas" based on your vast amount of experience (a couple of days spent in avalon after the festival ends) to people who have been running and organising the festival for years and years and years? Sorry but you will laughed out of town.

Your arrogance is astonishing.

[russycarps]

So just because I have only been twice means I can't pass any comment or try to make things better if I see a way forward?

Your closed mind is astonishing.

[kyjenni]

enough of this arguing, I have just noticed you suggested we go out for a drink.

*puts on pulling pants*

Your place or mine?

[russycarps]

I'm in Basingstoke, I have a car, where abouts are you?

[dakyras]

Wow, I've found it really interesting to read the responses. I do accept that the title and initial post was written in haste, I threw it together before I left to go see CAB about a work related matter.

It's quite hard to provide you a blow by blow recount of my experience as it was incredible, very stressful and I met thousands of people with different stories to tell. There is no way I can make this brief as I was there for almost 2 weeks!

I chose to stay on the Praxistent site this year for many reasons, one of which was to avoid problems with my back as I suffered badly last year. This site (as predicted by Neil!) was terrible, badly organised and quite stressful. I helped try to organise this site to try and calm everyone down and make everyone happy. Anyway, I have a full report to produce on this which will be submitted to a DV at the site office (I'm not going to put full name on here!). The Virtual Festivals crew were staying at the site, I met the team, hopefully entertained them then shared my pictures and some stories with Steve Jenner. I have his business card, he also gave me his gold hospitality band which I have since given away. On the Monday while wandering around in my Kiss my Fairy t-shirt a van of policemen pulled over and demanded kisses! One of them asked if he could have the gold band and I gave it to him. Told him though if it was going to a child it had to be framed and may even be worth something!

I only saw 2 of the bigger acts this year, Dizzee Rascal and Q-Tip. The rest of my time I spent exploring the festival and trying to find the landmarks I'd heard so much about from these forums.

The first day on site I rushed straight down to the Pyramid stage field to cheerlead for the World Cup. I had a brilliant day, met Michael Eavis who was lovely. I adored the badges and t-shirts so much I handed over another £15 and was given lots of these items I chose to hand out to kids or bargain with stores with. They provided a lot of fun. I recounted the cheerleading and ME story to many people after this event and I was even given £40 from a lovely lady from Energize Massage on route to Pyramid who had someone cancel on her. I went back to Water Aid, gave them the money, signed the book and returned with a t-shirt for her and a few badges for the rest of the workers in the tent.

Aside from the time I spent with friends I spent the majority of my time wandering the site on my own. I spent most of my time in the bottom right hand corner of the site appreciating the people and the countryside. While I was wandering around I noticed that many people were getting red in the sun where they hadn't applied suncream so I offered them some of my clear protection. You may see this as busy body, I know that I just care about other people so much i've turned in to my mother! I gave out badges from Water Aid to create awareness and just to spread smiles. When people were obviously lost I offered to help them. I met lots of random people and captured their festival experience on camera which they were willing to share, many have now added me on Facebook. I love meeting random people and spreading happiness, I am a very happy positive person!

Come the end of the festival the girls I came with wanted to shoot off in the morning. I didn't want to sit in traffic but I also wanted to spend more time in the festival seeing more of it before it got taken down. I gave them my car keys, programmed my sat nav so they could avoid traffic and they got from Pennard Hill Farm to Basingstoke in 2 hours 20 mins. I was very happy that they avoided the hours of queues.

I went back down to the site and met more randoms, Lee and another guy I can't remember the name of. It didn't take long before we found people who were struggling with their gear, trollies breaking etc. I brought gaffer tape and a whole other range of weird things with me, I was able to as I was staying on the Praxistent site. We helped a number of people get from around Jazz World up to gate A. Carrying bags and trying to make their lives a bit easier. It didn't take long for the guys to be offering help to other distressed ladies along the way (alterior motives are fine by me as long as everyone benefits!). We eventually got to gate A and sat down in the shade of an abandoned tent and relaxed. As people passed I would call out cheekily to them to come and share a smoke, have a rest before they carried on and many did. I put Bio Oil and sun protection on people who were sunburnt and shared water and smoke with anyone who wanted it. Anyway, after a long day with these guys I took them back to their campsite to meet their friends so they could leave. The friends had a brand new 6 man 3 berth tent still up which they said I could have! Now I was on my own, I had no way of getting this tent back to the Praxistent site up the hill of death. I went to get back to the Praxistent site and the Pennard gate was locked. After a little bit of mischief I eventually got through the gate and back up to the site. Slept and came back the next day. The next day the gate was still locked, so I decided the best plan of action was to head to the nearest gate. This was gate 3A. I didn't have spare clothes with me as I wasn't planning on staying for so long!

After dragging my (very resilient!) bag along the metal track for a while a truck came along and picked me up. The pink stewards jacket that was left at Pennard Gate came in very handy! I got a lift round to gate 3A and this is where I met the security boys there. I spent days coming in and out of the festival to see these guys, they were a lot of fun but a bit bored! They had started creating themselves a shelter to protect from sun and rain but had hit a wall. I inspired them with a bit of gaffer tape and a load of other fun goodies in my huge bag and they were off. On each of the 3 days I came back to them their base got better, they brought something new along and I was very impressed!

Inside gate 3A you find yourself in the Shangri La/Trash City crew camping (they also had camping outside of the gates). I met the most ingenious and amazing people here! Again I met many people, including Bill who was in charge of the area (I can't remember his exact title but he was the rep?). He informed me that in the busy periods he and other members of his team were having to chase up staff to clean the toilets and they were very filthy. I have his business card and his personal phone number.

In Avalon I came across the Avalon Inn and the most amazing wooden structure and I fell in love. I stalked this structure for days and when I realised no-one was appreciating it I kinda moved in. I swept the deck upstairs to get rid of the rubbish and made it in to a relaxation area for staff. Here I met hundreds of the litter pickers and workers. After a couple of days the leader of the Tree Pirates returned (I had heard about him but thought someone was pulling my leg!). He was a little concerned at first but when I assured him that I was a very safety conscious person, my mother was a girl guide leader and I would personally rip the face off of anyone who was disrespecting the structure he said we could stay and even provided a fire extinguisher which made me feel very safe!

As the workers moved around the area I explored. In the Jazz World area (which was open for anyone to access) I found a power impact driver in it's case with all attachments, paperwork which included the stage set ups, running orders and contact phone numbers and email addresses for everyone on the Glastonbury team. I found a number of other items but those are the most important to mention. I took the driver and the paperwork and left a note on one of the JCB's that I had found their driver and was keeping it safe in Avalon if they wanted to pick it up.

I love efficiency and people working together. I did my best to help out where I could, provide light entertainment (I'm a bit of a hyper funny b*stard). I.e. When the bin men went past I legged over to them with a freshly rolled smoke, my cider and a bunch of straws. I told them I loved them cause they stop my street from smelling bad, shared the cider and smoke with them and hopefully sent them off a bit happier.

I spent a LOT of time with other members of the performers crew, litter pickers, tipi dwellers, Sam's Sauna and met many many people. I was handed business cards from these people and I have since contacted them since I got back. I heard many stories which I am now trying to put backing to with my own pictures, video and any other evidence I collect.

The litter pickers were doing a fantastic job but having spoken to so many of them and heard the same stories over and over I am led to believe that there may be some backing, I am not going in to details though until I know for sure, that would not be fair. Try reading the other thread about the Caravans being left, one of the litter pickers has given their account on that thread and it made me quite sad.

I spent near enough a whole day in Sam's sauna where I threw away my cares and jumped naked in the plunge pool! I would barely get naked in the light of day in front of a partner! All the people I met taught me something new, gave me reflexology, massages and shared some of their skills and I'm so eager to meet them again so I can learn more of the spiritual side which I have been dabbling in for years. A huge thank you to all of these people, especially to Hans who was working in the Indigo Herbs of Glastonbury stall, if I don't find this man again I will be devastated!

I am a very calm and intelligent person, I do not jump into anything without being fully armed. You may hear of me as the Hippy MacGyver who could survive the wilderness and knows at least 3 usefull knots (thanks mum!). The Glastonbury Angel who pretended to be with the Shangri La crew who's van was damaged, called the AA out on my cover and got them on their way to the Midlands. There are just too many stories to recall.

I hope that even 200 of these people manage to find me cause I'd love them to see the pictures and know how they're doing.

I have many plans and I have so much information I could actually make a difference. Now, choose to stand against it and that's fine, but if I have some simple solutions and an army of people behind me with a lot of will and care for the festival and the site I think we could actually make a bit of a difference, do it nicely and spread a bit more respect and awareness for a number of causes.

If you think I'm a nutter then that's fine you're entitled to your opinion. I can tell you however that I was at the docs yesterday putting my parents minds at rest and he says I'm a bit impulsive and a very naughty girl but am not in any need of hospitalisation!

The healing/greenfields etc people were all really amazing, I learnt so much off of them and they are up for joining me as well. Apparently being a Leo and being born in the year of the Monkey means I might be a bit cheeky but I'm a good leader or something along those lines!

I haven't even managed to recount a quarter of the stories of the people I met, but what I can show you is the photos: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1281...mp;l=f0c6daf286 & http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1281...mp;l=afe31d73a8 . Sorry if this recount is all over the place but I have a lot of experiences to try and capture. I am working on a website for this.

I'm starting a love riot, plenty of people want to share their ideas and their talents, so who are you to cut us down or stand in our way? We're not going about this in a horrible way at all, but my own personal point is if nothing is changed I don't know if I can come back to the festival and enjoy it as I have done before. I'm not asking you to give up your experience, the wording was wrong. What I am asking is do you believe we can make it better??

[kyjenni]

You are an idiot.

[dakyras]

Jeez, now everyone wants a date with me!

[The Nal]

*rinses spuds in sink*

[HuggyHare]

And I'm not the messiah, I'm just a very naughty girl!

[jameshunt]

You are an idiot.

[dakyras]

Says the person who felt the need to quote two pages worth of a post to make a one liner insult comment?

Edited July 7, 2009 by dakyras

[eFestivals]

So just because I have only been twice means I can't pass any comment or try to make things better if I see a way forward?

You of course can. However, you shouldn't go thinking that anything you might suggest hasn't already been considered, and dismissed for good reasons.

As russycarps has said, there's a team of professionals with years (for some, decades) of experience of running Glastonbury festival (as well as, for many, other festivals), and as well as their own thoughts they'll have had masses of suggestions over the years.

Fairly regularly, I sit down with various senior Glasto staff members, and I always make a point of bringing to their attention things I feel should be brought to their attention. As far as I can remember, there's been no occasions when I haven't told them something they didn't already know, and as far as I can remember there's been no occasions when they haven't been able to immediately come back with a "that won't work because of x, y & z".

Now, of course that could be down to the quality of my suggestions, but - from being sat here at eFestivals - I really don't think it's that. In what I guess is a similar way, people regularly mail in suggestions of what they think would be a good improvement to eFestivals, but it's been years now since anyone has sent in something that hasn't already been considered (and either dismissed for good reason, or is already on a very long to-do list).

And so what I'm saying is: don't go expecting that your ideas will be any great revelation to Glasto - it's unlikely that you'd be raising anything new, and it's very likely that things you think would be good ideas have been rejected on the basis of much better information and knowledge than is a part of your own considerations.

And alongside that of course, the Festival has to be sure that anything it might change is an improvement on what they're doing already - there is no margin for error; it would be risking people's lives in some instances to try something which then didn't work out.

Edited July 7, 2009 by eFestivals

[russycarps]

After you put your pants on?

[jameshunt]

Succinct and to the point vs a rambling story that had no merit. Heard of juxtaposition?

[kyjenni]

If by 'date with me' you mean 'opportunity to stop you blabbering your vain insecurities', then yes.

[marktea]

no, there are OPINIONS being expressed back at someone's opinions.

Just because those opinions are not all complimentary doesn't make them "bullying, bad behaviour or ill will". People are entitled to comment, and to express their views. If their view is that the Op is (say) "insane" then that's a view they're entitled to hold, however wrong it might be.

Meanwhile, posts such as your own can be considered no less "bullying, bad behaviour or ill will", as your post is designed to stifle free and fair comment and discussion on the subject raised by the OP without making any further useful contribution to the discussion.

As for your sexism... well.... It's sexism! PEOPLE have opinions. If it's blokes making "negative" comments here then perhaps it's because there's some blokes without their heads in the clouds?

We all have our views, and we all have our views of others views. This forum is for discussion of *all* Glasto subjects, not the subset you'd like with only the responses you'd like - I don't give myself that privilege so I'm certainly not going to give it to you. If you want clique there's plenty of other places that do it extremely well.

Edited July 7, 2009 by marktea

[fluffypinkdaisy]

I also hasten to add that I'm campaigning for the fish in the pond by the stone dragon. One of the stall holders told me that people are pissing in their water. That's just not nice. I would ask how would any of you like it if I came and had a wee on you while you were in the bath but I'm thinking that some of you would be all for that...

[The Nal]

Cool, well if you're near to London and Basingstoke maybe you'd like to join myself russycarps?

I am serious, I'm happy to do this in the real world!

[fluffypinkdaisy]

Hmm, but you wouldn't get a festival ticket thrown in - because people would sign up then scarper without doing the job.

You'd soon learn if you had to do 200 in a day.

[kyjenni]

You of course can. However, you shouldn't go thinking that anything you might suggest hasn't already been considered, and dismissed for good reasons.

As russycarps has said, there's a team of professionals with years (for some, decades) of experience of running Glastonbury festival (as well as, for many, other festivals), and as well as their own thoughts they'll have had masses of suggestions over the years.

Fairly regularly, I sit down with various senior Glasto staff members, and I always make a point of bringing to their attention things I feel should be brought to their attention. As far as I can remember, there's been no occasions when I haven't told them something they didn't already know, and as far as I can remember there's been no occasions when they haven't been able to immediately come back with a "that won't work because of x, y & z".

Now, of course that could be down to the quality of my suggestions, but - from being sat here at eFestivals - I really don't think it's that. In what I guess is a similar way, people regularly mail in suggestions of what they think would be a good improvement to eFestivals, but it's been years now since anyone has sent in something that hasn't already been considered (and either dismissed for good reason, or is already on a very long to-do list).

And so what I'm saying is: don't go expecting that your ideas will be any great revelation to Glasto - it's unlikely that you'd be raising anything new, and it's very likely that things you think would be good ideas have been rejected on the basis of much better information and knowledge than is a part of your own considerations.

And alongside that of course, the Festival has to be sure that anything it might change is an improvement on what they're doing already - there is no margin for error; it would be risking people's lives in some instances to try something which then didn't work out.