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Oh yes...

Morpeth Jetsan...anyone else notice this strange name on the door of the Ganger's Boss' headquarters. Already been wondering if this is an anagram and a google search located a Whovian forum that came up with these ideas:

Phantom jester

John's a tempter

Jet posh ratmen

Tenth poems jar

Metaphor 'n' jest

Jet no hat sperm

The jetsam porn

Pan jester moth

Then presto: Jam!

Her top ten's jam

Jet-hop starmen

Ah! Jest met porn

Tenth major ESP

and most promising:

Jester hat on PM

Phantom Jester is the one that stands out obviously. And as someone mentioned on the same page, Canton Everett Delaware III seems a bit strange but apparently no anagram busters can get much out of it.

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Whilst doing my daily swim I was trying to figure out at what point did Amy and Ganger Amy swap places...hmm...well I just started trying to type my ideas and it still didnt make sense...so I've given up. There was some type of timetravelling/bodyswapping tomfoolery between the point when Amy told the doctor she was pregnant and then it was Ganger Amy when she said she had lost it/wasnt pregnant anymore but that is all I can fathom currently. It does explain the negative positive pregnancy tests that the Doc has kept running thoughout the series. And then the comment by Idris/Tardis Lady about always taking the Doctor to where he needs to go (which goes without saying).

I think I have to go and watch episodes 1 and 2 all over again!

The switch has to take place sometime before Amy meets back up with the Dcotor about 5 minutes into Episode 2.

The trouble is that there's 3 months between Episodes 1 and 2 that we've not seen (yet?). Or the switch could've happened somewhere in Episode 1 and I've just missed it.

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And whether this is of any importance, Amy is wearing the same outfit in Episodes 1 & 2 as she is in 5 & 6.

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The switch has to take place sometime before Amy meets back up with the Dcotor about 5 minutes into Episode 2.

The trouble is that there's 3 months between Episodes 1 and 2 that we've not seen (yet?). Or the switch could've happened somewhere in Episode 1 and I've just missed it.

There's 12 years (or something) of Amelia/Amy's (why the definite distinction between the 2 names?) life we don't know about from the very first episode of the last series. Cloney fleshy wierd switchy stuff could have happened any time then. Or the bit where she's kidnapped by the silence in the first episode of this series (or was it the second?), it's not really clear how long they have her for but I think it's hinted that it may have been weeks. Or, with Moffat in control,chances are she hasn't been taken yet, we'll find out more about that next series, just after, before and during finding out a load more things we don't know we didn't know we needed to know about yet.

And while I like the Morpeth Jetsan speculation, I don't think it's much more than a Weyland-Yutani type name tbh.

And another and, the next episode may be called A Good Man Goes To War, but is the Good Man necessarily the Doctor? Could it be Rory? Does that make a difference?

For a programme I know quite a lot about, I really seem to know nothing about it. Bloody ace. B)

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There's 12 years (or something) of Amelia/Amy's (why the definite distinction between the 2 names?) life we don't know about from the very first episode of the last series. Cloney fleshy wierd switchy stuff could have happened any time then.

I was working to the assumption that she was taken for the purposes of the pregnancy (hence the mysterious appearances of the "nurse"), and so going back too far would be unlikely, but you're right it could've happened before this series. Although I can't see it having been before she starts travelling with The Doctor - he says "You haven't been here for a long long time" which to me implies that she had been there at some point (and I don't think 7 year old Amelia counts in this respect).

Of course the passage of (real world) time is often left deliberately vague, apart from the 3 month gap we know happened between Episodes 1 and 2, we've very little knowledge (that I can remember) of how much time passes between most of the other stories.

Or the bit where she's kidnapped by the silence in the first episode of this series (or was it the second?), it's not really clear how long they have her for but I think it's hinted that it may have been weeks.

That was in the second episode, and after she tells the doctor she's lost the baby so the change has (probably) already been made by then.

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oh boy... this has just been sent to me on twitter:

***** WARNING - MASSIVE POSSIBLE PLOT SPOILER ABOUT FINAL EPISODE 6.13 *****

David Tennant in final episode of series. Source... imdb!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1824359/

Take it with a pinch of salt, IMDB is like wiki and members can edit it. They were a shit ton of fake rumours for the new Batman film that kept appearing on there on weekly basis which even contradicted what was on it the week before.

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Take it with a pinch of salt, IMDB is like wiki and members can edit it. They were a shit ton of fake rumours for the new Batman film that kept appearing on there on weekly basis which even contradicted what was on it the week before.

This. No end of constant rumours about almost everybody returning to the show bounce around things like IMDB. In recent times we've heard that David Tennant will be in this series, as will Paul McGann, Peter Davison, Tom Baker, Lalla Ward, Janet Fielding, Sarah Sutton and more. Half the time it's a mix-up and somebody somewhere has seen some promo work for a Big Finish audio production or something; I think everybody mentioned with the exception of David Tennant has done or is doing one.

Personally I'm not sure I can see Moffat & co. roping in DT (or any other past Doctors) just yet, although anything's possible. Or maybe DT will appear but it's just another set of cameos, images of past regenerations popping up. Must admit while watching the Almost People confidential, I did wonder if they might have had grander ideas for the scene when the ganger Doctor appears. They talked about him struggling to contain all of the previous regenerations, as evidenced by the ganger Doctor quoting Pertwee and Baker (reversing the polarity of the neutron flow and jelly babies) - surely a great opportunity for him to flesh-shift through all 11 incarnations. Bloody expensive to do though of course, and might have overshadowed everything else in the episode.

Did anybody else notice that the Doctor and his ganger had a conversation (of sorts) about cybermats by the way? Seemed a bit out of place to me...

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This. No end of constant rumours about almost everybody returning to the show bounce around things like IMDB. In recent times we've heard that David Tennant will be in this series, as will Paul McGann, Peter Davison, Tom Baker, Lalla Ward, Janet Fielding, Sarah Sutton and more. Half the time it's a mix-up and somebody somewhere has seen some promo work for a Big Finish audio production or something; I think everybody mentioned with the exception of David Tennant has done or is doing one.

Personally I'm not sure I can see Moffat & co. roping in DT (or any other past Doctors) just yet, although anything's possible. Or maybe DT will appear but it's just another set of cameos, images of past regenerations popping up. Must admit while watching the Almost People confidential, I did wonder if they might have had grander ideas for the scene when the ganger Doctor appears. They talked about him struggling to contain all of the previous regenerations, as evidenced by the ganger Doctor quoting Pertwee and Baker (reversing the polarity of the neutron flow and jelly babies) - surely a great opportunity for him to flesh-shift through all 11 incarnations. Bloody expensive to do though of course, and might have overshadowed everything else in the episode.

Did anybody else notice that the Doctor and his ganger had a conversation (of sorts) about cybermats by the way? Seemed a bit out of place to me...

Or if it's true it could be flashbacks about River's time with the Doc and no interaction between past & present Docs.

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And another and, the next episode may be called A Good Man Goes To War, but is the Good Man necessarily the Doctor? Could it be Rory? Does that make a difference?

The titles have been somewhat intentionally misleading (i.e. The Doctors Wife had everyone thinking of River) so that may be spot on - I bet you're right.

Rory is a 2000 year old soul isn't he? He is aware of his past/alternate-life as an Auton protector isn't he? He may be human and in his mid-twenties again now but as far as his memory goes he's got the soul of a killing machine. I love how Doctor Who even taps into mumbo jumbo like past lives and gives it a sci-fi spin.

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I was working to the assumption that she was taken for the purposes of the pregnancy (hence the mysterious appearances of the "nurse"), and so going back too far would be unlikely, but you're right it could've happened before this series. Although I can't see it having been before she starts travelling with The Doctor - he says "You haven't been here for a long long time" which to me implies that she had been there at some point (and I don't think 7 year old Amelia counts in this respect).

Of course the passage of (real world) time is often left deliberately vague, apart from the 3 month gap we know happened between Episodes 1 and 2, we've very little knowledge (that I can remember) of how much time passes between most of the other stories.

That was in the second episode, and after she tells the doctor she's lost the baby so the change has (probably) already been made by then.

I read somewhere that one of the producers had said during an appearance on breakfast TV that Amy had been replaced prior to the start of the 2nd series.

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So then.... best Who ever?

I think it might just have been. Absolutely loved it from start to finish. Perfectly judged changes in pace, superb sfx (with more than a nod to star wars), some excellent acting by all involved, plenty of fan service from previous (and possible future eps), and actually funny comedy moments contrasting plenty of emotionally charged scenes. Twice in that ep I was nearly in tears... just phenomenal!

And it just goes to show that even tho something is obvious and we all see it coming, it doesn't mean that when it finally happens it still can't be absolutely awesome.

I'm off to watch it for a second time straight away. Just magnificent.

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Thanks to the spoilers on here, after first thinking NO WAY to NOOO WAAAYYY to NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY and then tears profusely falling from my face partly putting everything together I was very happy.

I didnt get on with the episode until the last 15/10 minutes as it started to begin to make a bit more sense. Before tha I was honestly shouting at 'telly saying 'Moffat PLEASE STOP MAKING IT SOOOOO CONFUSING FOR US', 'Give us a chance to get to the point and catch up ffs!!!'

A second or third viewing will help with this...which isnt a great reflection in some ways. Tonight's show was in at the deep end by about 15ft before it came up for air and things began to fall into place.

I read this weeks Radio Times article (Dr Who interview with Moffat) a couple of hours before the show and Moffat is right - you CANNOT watch this show whilst doing the ironing, having a conversation, messing on Twitter! I rue even missing 30 seconds whilst I talked to the cat earlier!!!

Final point and a bit of a geeky one - I am SURE with a capital S-U-R-E!!! that the blue guy appeared in a previous episode that concerned River. The two of them clinking cocktails together? Just a tiny moment in an episode that almost resembled the Star Wars Cantina, cant place which one in my memory though. I know when I saw it whenever it was, how thumbs up to Moffat giving thumbs up to Lucas it was :D

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Final point and a bit of a geeky one - I am SURE with a capital S-U-R-E!!! that the blue guy appeared in a previous episode that concerned River. The two of them clinking cocktails together? Just a tiny moment in an episode that almost resembled the Star Wars Cantina, cant place which one in my memory though. I know when I saw it whenever it was, how thumbs up to Moffat giving thumbs up to Lucas it was :D

I'm pretty sure he was the guy she 'bought' the time travelling braclet McGuffin from in an episode from the last series.

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