news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

I'd say that Tories who'd normally switch to libdems are switching to reform this time. Which prolly means fewer tory seat losses than might be expected and less chance of Hung parliament.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

I'd say that Tories who'd normally switch to libdems are switching to reform this time. Which prolly means fewer tory seat losses than might be expected and less chance of Hung parliament.

I'd say more likely they're losing votes to both lib dems and reform, each attracting different types of voter..but recently there has been a surge of switching to reform which are making the tories panic.

[Neil]

Normally libdems would win a fair few seats from the Tories, I'm expecting less of that next election.

Edited January 29, 2024 by Neil

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

Normally libdems would win a fair few seats from the Tories, I'm expecting less of that next election.

BET NOW!

surely they'll do better than 2019.

[Neil]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

BET NOW!

surely they'll do better than 2019.

Better than 2019 but not like in the Blair years.anything but Tory doesn't have to be libdem now.

[Skip997]

16 hours ago, Neil said:

Iran has been taking the piss out of the USA just like saddam had done. They had to show Saddam who was boss. If the yanks take Iran down they could end the trouble in syria too. Except Syria would fragment without Assad.

Why?

The interfering twats need to calm down.

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Why?

The interfering twats need to calm down.

ask them why they felt they needed to.

[steviewevie]

Trump will be in soon and he'll solve it all in about half an hour.

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

This lot...just days after ICJ ruling..

 

[Neil]

all of ancient Palestine is their religious inheritance. 😞 

[Skip997]

Told you lot

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Told you lot

Told us lot what?

[Skip997]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Told us lot what?

That the real Israeli government plan is to clear Gaza of Palestinians and claim it as part of Israeli.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

That the real Israeli government plan is to clear Gaza of Palestinians and claim it as part of Israeli.

That isn't the govt, it is some of the more right wing members at their own conference, bit like NatCons or ProCons or whateverelseCons.

 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

That isn't the govt, it is some of the more right wing members at their own conference, bit like NatCons or ProCons or whateverelseCons.

 

but reality is the Oct7th attacks probably help their cause, like the Israeli response helps the more extreme Hamas/Iranian destruction of Israel cause..extremists on both sides feed each other until it becomes a fight to the death and no compromise is possible. 

[kaosmark2]

32 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but reality is the Oct7th attacks probably help their cause, like the Israeli response helps the more extreme Hamas/Iranian destruction of Israel cause..extremists on both sides feed each other until it becomes a fight to the death and no compromise is possible. 

This is the exact problem. And the extremists equate everyone else as the extremists on the other side, which keeps on feeding the cycle.

Separating the population of Israel with their government, and the population of Palestine with Hamas is vital to counter the escalation.

[steviewevie]

Evil Plotters

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, kaosmark2 said:

This is the exact problem. And the extremists equate everyone else as the extremists on the other side, which keeps on feeding the cycle.

Separating the population of Israel with their government, and the population of Palestine with Hamas is vital to counter the escalation.

which might mean proper international intervention. Israel public have been voting Likud/Netanyahu for a long time, they are not pro two state...and Gazans don't get to vote that often but when they did they voted for Hamas...so this has to be enforced unless the public on both sides can be persuaded to forgive and accept the other, and with all the death and destruction going on can't see that happening any time soon.

[Skip997]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

which might mean proper international intervention.

Long overdue

By about 70 years.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Long overdue

By about 70 years.

go back to 1948 and enforce borders of new Jewish state created by UN partition plan to prevent surrounding Arab countries invading?

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

go back to 1948 and enforce borders of new Jewish state created by UN partition plan to prevent surrounding Arab countries invading?

And at the same time prevent Israeli from encroaching on Palestinian lands 

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

And at the same time prevent Israeli from encroaching on Palestinian lands 

yes, well big failure by UN there. And the British.

[Skip997]

What's happened to Mr Fish?

He'd normally be all over my recent posts