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13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

For work experience at school I went out with the ministry of agriculture and we once went out to a hunt kennels to put down quite a few of their beagles . End of working lives and before the ban  came in , but any idea they are pets is a falicy . Utterly barbaric pursuit 

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4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

For work experience at school I went out with the ministry of agriculture and we once went out to a hunt kennels to put down quite a few of their beagles . End of working lives and before the ban  came in , but any idea they are pets is a falicy . Utterly barbaric pursuit 

it's banned apparently.

Whole thing is a joke.

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6 hours ago, Skip997 said:

This is exactly the sort of xenophobic nonsense a large number of the brain dead electorate would go for.

They'd have to think it meant something of substance. Without the public believing the houses exist there's nothing for any Brits xenophobic or not.

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3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

unfortunately it isn't true.

Think it might be true. I did some digging and saw some comments like " that's nothing you should hear what she said about Liz Truss"

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6 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Savanta chap goes into detail here on the main differences. 

Main difference is that different people were surveyed.

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5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

There was a period during lockdown where no groups greater than 30 were allowed. It just so happens that his coincided with his 60th birthday. I have no idea how he did it, but he managed to secure the Farmer Phil's site for his 60th birthday, whilst limited to 30 people. He had even got the equipment for a silent disco for 30 people.

Anyway, we partied through the night until there was just 4 people around the outdoor fire. We watched the sun rise. Not too long after that a full n hunt came over the hill opposite to us. There were far more than 30 in their group, and they were 'not' drag hunting. It was the most surreal of moments. 

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big praise in the USA for binden's handling of the economy, something about the biggest boost to middle class incomes in a generation. can't see starmer getting similar praise when he's coming up for re-election. good news for the world as it sounds like biden might win against trump("it's the economy stupid").

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Was just featured on BBC breakfast Bristol leading the way again, Bristol drugs project becomes the first in the country to offer a regular drugs testing service. I have a couple of friends who work for bdp one of which I bumped into at boomtown one year. They reckon bdp is a fantastic charity.

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The Hague court SA vs Israel genocide thing will give first ruling today...will possibly order Israel to stop its fighting in Gaza, which Israel will probably ignore, but will put on even more international pressure for them to cease. The actual genocide decision won't be for years I don't think.

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18 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Yep, simple sound bites aimed at those who find thought  a tad tricky - some of which frequent these forums.

yes - we're all part of that brain-dead electorate, but some of us live in places where only the good guys get votes. 🙂 

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Ok, court has ordered provisional measures for Israel to carry out to prevent genocide etc...and Israel has to provide a report in a month that have abided to these measures. Something like that. Anyway, victory to those who want this carnage in Gaza to stop. Hopefully something positive will come from it, not optimistic it will though.

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11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Ok, court has ordered provisional measures for Israel to carry out to prevent genocide etc...and Israel has to provide a report in a month that have abided to these measures. Something like that. Anyway, victory to those who want this carnage in Gaza to stop. Hopefully something positive will come from it, not optimistic it will though.

What will other countries do if Israel don't comply? Wag their fingers and tell Netanyahu off?

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2 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

What will other countries do if Israel don't comply? Wag their fingers and tell Netanyahu off?

what can they do? Sanctions I guess. But I don't think Israel has to comply, like Russia didn't.

It doesn't rule that there should be a ceasefire, but that any harm to civilians should be prevented and aid needs to get in...which would mean a ceasefire really. Israel will rubbish this of course, but maybe it will help with the apparently negotiations that are going on in Qatar towards a truce/ceasefire and a hostage release.

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5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

what can they do? Sanctions I guess. But I don't think Israel has to comply, like Russia didn't.

It doesn't rule that there should be a ceasefire, but that any harm to civilians should be prevented and aid needs to get in...which would mean a ceasefire really. Israel will rubbish this of course, but maybe it will help with the apparently negotiations that are going on in Qatar towards a truce/ceasefire and a hostage release.

Given that Israel is officially allied with US/UK/France, I don't see there being any sanctions actually happen. Not even the extent of what was imposed on Russia (which was clearly insufficient).

There's quite a lot of strawman arguments going on in various debates where people try and equate calls for a ceasefire and the end of the genocide to suggesting that Israel has to walk over and just let Hamas commit terrorism. But Israel isn't defending itself atm, it's using a specific terrorist incidence to try and justify genocide and territory expansion.

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6 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

Given that Israel is officially allied with US/UK/France, I don't see there being any sanctions actually happen. Not even the extent of what was imposed on Russia (which was clearly insufficient).

 

sanctions from elsewhere...Russia, China, Arab neighbours, Africa etc. 

I don't know, not a lot may come from it, I think Israel stopping will more likely come from internal pressure than external pressure.

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