Football 2013-2014

[thetime]

The horse has bolted but it could be reigned back in. Managers just need to brief their players that they won't accept it when they're bought. Neymar and Lewandowski have dived tonight because they know the club want it, even if they won't admit it. If England win the World Cup final (yes, I know) with an Ashley Young dive to win a penalty I certainly won't celebrate it. And if the FA didn't come out and publicly condemn it, I'd never watch England again.

And I'm sure that has the FA trembling in their boots

[thetime]

Fair play arsenal cracking result.

Real deal after all.

[thetime]

No - I support Liverpool

But as stated earlier, Suarez has reigned it in. (the blatant diving as opposed to making the most of contact).

A few seasons ago Ngog was castigated for diving.

I would seriously not celebrate a cup win that was won by a dive.

[kaosmark2]

No - I support Liverpool

But as stated earlier, Suarez has reigned it in. (the blatant diving as opposed to making the most of contact).

A few seasons ago Ngog was castigated for diving.

I would seriously not celebrate a cup win that was won by a dive.

[kaosmark2]

Fair play arsenal cracking result.

Real deal after all.

[pink_triangle]

Man Utd should get rid of Young because he is crap, not because he is a diver. Theres no way such a corporate club will release a player (worth 10 million maybe?) just to prove a point. I sometimes wonder if he is in the team purely to get penalties, as I don't see any other great attributes.

[pink_triangle]

Very much so. Ramsey as well. I was convinced that while he'd regained form, the goals were going to dry up fairly quickly. Seems I was wrong on that.

[thetime]

I understand how this now makes me look like a hypocrite - that's why I wasn't nailing my colours to the mast. But you asked and I couldn't lie.

I stand by it though. Liverpool haven't scored a goal this season (that I can think of) through a dive. And if we did, no I wouldn't celebrate. I'd shake my head in disgust. That doesn't change much.

[thetime]

Man Utd should get rid of Young because he is crap, not because he is a diver. Theres no way such a corporate club will release a player (worth 10 million maybe?) just to prove a point. I sometimes wonder if he is in the team purely to get penalties, as I don't see any other great attributes.

[kaosmark2]

I thought this would be his last season at Arsenal, how wrong that prediction is looking. I am struggling to remember a player who has improved by so much over 1 season, amazing what a bit of confidence can do for a player.

[pink_triangle]

Another point are Mertersacker and Koscielny the best centre back pairing in the premiership at present?

Man Utd on Sunday is going to be an interesting game. While Arsenal have been impressive beating spurs and Liverpool, both games were at home and both are teams arsenal are used to beating and finishing above. Some are calling Arsenal favourites for the game, but I think they would be very happy with a point.

[thetime]

Can't really argue with that when you put it like that.

Also a very valid point.

My love for football wains every season due to the diving etc and if this carries on I can see me watching hardly any top level football in a few years time. The matches I saw at the women's Olympics brought this home to me. I didn't see any cheating/back chat/asking for cards etc and enjoyed it a lot more because of this.

I will never celebrate diving be it England/Liverpool or otherwise. Liverpool are my favourite team so I want them to win, but I never want them to win at any cost. That is why I don't think of myself as a hypocrite.

[kaosmark2]

Another point are Mertersacker and Koscielny the best centre back pairing in the premiership at present?

Man Utd on Sunday is going to be an interesting game. While Arsenal have been impressive beating spurs and Liverpool, both games were at home and both are teams arsenal are used to beating and finishing above. Some are calling Arsenal favourites for the game, but I think they would be very happy with a point.

[pink_triangle]

Can't really argue with that when you put it like that.

Also a very valid point.

My love for football wains every season due to the diving etc and if this carries on I can see me watching hardly any top level football in a few years time. The matches I saw at the women's Olympics brought this home to me. I didn't see any cheating/back chat/asking for cards etc and enjoyed it a lot more because of this.

I will never celebrate diving be it England/Liverpool or otherwise. Liverpool are my favourite team so I want them to win, but I never want them to win at any cost. That is why I don't think of myself as a hypocrite.

[pink_triangle]

. If England win the World Cup final (yes, I know) with an Ashley Young dive to win a penalty I certainly won't celebrate it. And if the FA didn't come out and publicly condemn it, I'd never watch England again.

And I'm sure that has the FA trembling in their boots

[thetime]

Going back to Ashley Young and his cheating, was he diving at villa and Watford aswel? Or is it just since he went to United?

United don't have a major reputation for divers although ronaldo and Rooney have done in the past.

[kaosmark2]

Going back to Ashley Young and his cheating, was he diving at villa and Watford aswel? Or is it just since he went to United?

United don't have a major reputation for divers although ronaldo and Rooney have done in the past.

[pink_triangle]

Nah he's just slightly less shit than nani, plus they are bringing janusaj through slowly and resting him for arsenal.

[thetime]

And Ronaldo was nowhere near as bad at the end of his United career as he was at the start. Did Ferguson have a word? That's what I mean about staff or other players changing the mindsets of the divers. If I could see that was happening, I wouldn't be as disappointed than if it happened, say in the QF of a world cup and nothing was said, as opposed to the FA or Roy coming out and saying it was wrong - we can't change what happened but we'll make sure he doesn't do it again.

[kaosmark2]

I actually think it does more harm than good people diving. Players not getting pens when they should have, remember nani diving quite a bit when he came over but was more harm than good.

[thetime]

Disagree, I think Young just doesn't have the talent to play at a team like man utd. Nani has the ability but doesn't make the most of it, still at his best he is much better than Young.

[thetime]

I think the reason he's not been diving lately is because he's not got near enough any play to try it.

[zahidf]

Great arsenal performance last night. Guess they are the real thing this season!

[LondonTom]

Fining for diving now that's a can of worms and could lead to problems. When's a dive not a dive? Bale got bookings last season that were harsh to say the least.

Edited November 7, 2013 by LondonTom

[pink_triangle]

I'd start with a no contact rule on diving. If you go down with no contact and don't own up to it. You get a once match ban. (It'd obviously be punishable after the game via video evidence.).

I do think alot of these dives are not so much players cheating...but losing balance and making the best of the situation but it's still cheating, if you gain a foul from it.