Damon Albarn

[mrtourette]

Well harsh on Lydon. One ad, to get the band on the road as he was getting no support from the record company. And to back he up, he hasn't stopped touring since and has released the first new PiL album in 20 years. He spent every penny of that money on the band. They wouldn't exist without it.

"Sickening"? "Pathetic"?

C'mon!

[Trebor]

Basic maths really.

[mrtourette]

Basic maths really.

[TheSeventhOne]

Being unable to separate a song from an advertisement is more of a reflection on you than the artist, surely?

Edited April 29, 2013 by TheSeventhOne

[Wooderson]

Being unable to separate a song from an advertisement is more of a reflection on you than the artist, surely?

Edited April 29, 2013 by Wooderson

[Wooderson]

Its not the financial motive I necessarily have a problem with. There's almost always some financial motive with the release of a lot of music. Otherwise musicians would just give it away for free. There is a difference between adverts and movie soundtracks though. In theory a soundtrack is part of the art, putting your music in an advert is negating the art.

[fatyeti24]

What if the advert itself is art? I cite the "Horse Surfer" advert by Guinness m'lud.

[Wooderson]

can something be art if it has any other purpose than simply being art? an advert, however pretty, is trying to get the money from your pocket. that Guinness advert was a fine thing, but it was still trying to get me to buy black beer (which i have never needed any encouragement to do!)

[mrtourette]

can something be art if it has any other purpose than simply being art? an advert, however pretty, is trying to get the money from your pocket. that Guinness advert was a fine thing, but it was still trying to get me to buy black beer (which i have never needed any encouragement to do!)

[Trebor]

Basic maths really.

[Wooderson]

What if Picasso starting painting just to get laid, is that still art or does the purpose behind it being other than just to create art degrade it?

[fatyeti24]

If you don't think advertising is an art form youre an ignoramous. That Guinness ad was a work of sublime genius.

Lets put it like this - do you reckon that Guinness ad inspired anyone? We're still talking about it nearly 15 years later. That ain't cuz it made us buy more Guinness.

Ergo, art.

[fatyeti24]

What if Picasso starting painting just to get laid, is that still art or does the purpose behind it being other than just to create art degrade it?

[Wooderson]

i'm taking that 'you' as a plural.

'i don't know', would be my answer to my question. maybe i should have been more explicit. you seem to have a firmer idea than i as to what constitutes art. no need to label folk as an ignoramous.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

In my mind at least, Albarn whoring out Blur & Gorillaz's music has been a way for him to fund other less commercially viable projects: Dr Dee, Mali Music, The Good the Bad & the Queen, Africa Express, Journey to the West, Rocket Juice & the Moon etc etc. If you don't agree with that kind of thing, then fine. But it should not be one rule for one & one for another like the Nal was suggesting. Lydon's situation was no different, he had a project he wanted to fund, so he turned to advertising for the quick £££$$$. Perhaps Damon has done it a lot more, but then again he's made music that's a lot more in demand.

[mrtourette]

i don't know.

[Wooderson]

In my mind at least, Albarn whoring out Blur & Gorillaz's music has been a way for him to fund other less commercially viable projects: Dr Dee, Mali Music, The Good the Bad & the Queen, Africa Express, Journey to the West, Rocket Juice & the Moon etc etc. If you don't agree with that kind of thing, then fine. But it should not be one rule for one & one for another like the Nal was suggesting. Lydon's situation was no different, he had a project he wanted to fund, so he turned to advertising for the quick £££$$$. Perhaps Damon has done it a lot more, but then again he's made music that's a lot more in demand.

[The Nal]

In my mind at least, Albarn whoring out Blur & Gorillaz's music has been a way for him to fund other less commercially viable projects: Dr Dee, Mali Music, The Good the Bad & the Queen, Africa Express, Journey to the West, Rocket Juice & the Moon etc etc. If you don't agree with that kind of thing, then fine. But it should not be one rule for one & one for another like the Nal was suggesting. Lydon's situation was no different, he had a project he wanted to fund, so he turned to advertising for the quick £££$$$. Perhaps Damon has done it a lot more, but then again he's made music that's a lot more in demand.

[Trebor]

Yeah, the Universal was an important song for me and now I can't help but picture those awful ads. If they'd only ran for a bit that probably wouldn't have happened but how log has that campaign ran for now?' But then again I can't help but like and admire Damon in spite of it. Modern music would be a much poorer place without him.

[The Nal]

But then again I can't help but like and admire Damon in spite of it. Modern music would be a much poorer place without him.

[Wooderson]

Nah. When I hear the opening to The Universal I instantly picture the ad and I almost hear the bloke doing the voice over. Its a jingle now. Thats not my fault. It was a song on The Great Escape for 15 years.

"At British Gas, we know your home is your world........"

Edited April 29, 2013 by Wooderson

[Wooderson]

Agreed. And I'm not even a big fan.

[Mardy]

you know, walking into town this morning I put some blur on. The narrative of blur's album releases, from the first one to the last is just fucking extraordinary. Every album is a jump, a reinvention, a revelation. It's startling really, and while Coxon always gets a lot of the plaudits for that, I genuinely think it's Albarn who's The Seeker in this, pushing and probing at the limits of what the band can do.

The jump from Leisure to Modern Life, and that huge leap from Great Escape to Blur. Fucking hell, I can't think of another band over the last 40 years who've done anything remotely like that.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

Lets be clear about this. Lydon has done one ad. One. And his music wasn't featured.

Edited April 29, 2013 by Frankly Mr Shankly

[Wooderson]

you know, walking into town this morning I put some blur on. The narrative of blur's album releases, from the first one to the last is just fucking extraordinary. Every album is a jump, a reinvention, a revelation. It's startling really, and while Coxon always gets a lot of the plaudits for that, I genuinely think it's Albarn who's The Seeker in this, pushing and probing at the limits of what the band can do.

The jump from Leisure to Modern Life, and that huge leap from Great Escape to Blur. Fucking hell, I can't think of another band over the last 40 years who've done anything remotely like that.