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[eFestivals]

Everyone I know who has an Iphone loves it. Some buy them beacuse it's fashionable, some people have a play and make an informed choice. That fact that everyone I know who has one loves it just proves that the functionality must be pretty good to make people rave about them.

50% of what an Andrioid phone can do is wasted on the majority of phone users, the functionality of the iphone is what drives the love for them.

While I don't doubt those things are true for some, it's still the case that the fan boys were queuing up to buy them without having tried it at the time of its original launch - which can of course only been on the basis of hype.

As it happens, I've just read a piece on the BBC website about Jobs...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15196874

It goes on about his skill as a salesman, which of course is talking someone into buying a product they might not otherwise buy - and talks about the "reality distortion field", which about misleading people into buying something they wouldn't otherwise buy.

Such things are marketing over substance. If the substance was as good as some believe, then these things wouldn't be necessary to achieve the sales that Apple products have achieved.

None of that is me saying that the products aren't good. It's me saying the products aren't as good as some would have you believe.

[eFestivals]

You really are tiresome...

It's a problem you had on your phone when you used Orange. It's not a problem I've had on two different phones when using Orange with similar weak connections to what you've described for yourself.

So providing that the weak connections we've both experienced are doing the same thing, then the problem is not the provider but the phone.

It might sound tiresome to you, but those would be the actual facts of the matter if everything else is equal (which it sounds as if it is, tho of course neither of us can know for certain).

You certainly seem over-sensitive about it. Sounds like you've become no less of an Apple fan boy than others.

[eFestivals]

What the hell does that mean ?

If a hypothetical product is perfect it might achieve, say, 1M sales without need of hype.

If the same hypothetical product is less than perfect it might achieve, say, 500k sales without need of hype.

If the hypothetical product is less than perfect but achieves the 1M sale mark anyway, then it's only done so thru hype.

C'mon, it surely wasn't that difficult to work out?

[eFestivals]

http://www.dailymail...er-mobiles.html

I really can't be arsed into putting a lot of effort into this but here you go... One small tip of the hat towards what I am saying...

There are some articles out there that go into it in detail...

that certainly suggests that this problem will vary between different makes & models of phones, dependent on how much thought a phone designer has put into its primary use of connecting to a phone signal.

So as I said, it appears to be a problem with your phone and not the service provider.

And from how that article is worded, it seems to be a particular problem with the iPhone as that's the only one that's named, and was presumably reported problems specifically with iPhones which prompted the writer to write that story.

The writer could have given it a more general angle for a variety of reasons - such as having contacted Apple about the problem and had Apple say it can be a problem with any phone, or that they didn't want to specifically finger just Apple phones as having the problem because of fear of legal comeback and not having the proof that no other type of phones suffered from the same problem.

Everything is pointing to the problem being with your iPhone (and not my different smartphone), as I originally said. So over-sensitive fan boy seems to be it.

[eFestivals]

the comments on that article are hilarious.

[5co77ie]

ring me - mine works fine

[eFestivals]

The problem as I said is with ALL SMARTPHONES...

Seriously, it's not a problem on mine, and I'm in a weak signal area.

For it to be a problem on all smartphones, that would take the same ignorant designer to have designed every smartphone. That seems somewhat unlikely.

[the_hedge]

I got it here:

http://www.mobilepho...09/p115145.aspx

at £26 a month

[Ed209]

Sorry, i don't get you. what adapter?

You were complaining that apple change the connectivity of their products all the time, which is far from true. They have pretty much the most consistent conectivity going and its pretty much universal across all their products

what is this apple ethos that stinks so much?

Edited October 6, 2011 by Ed209

[Ed209]

I use the same charger and sync cable for both my iPad and iPhone

[feral chile]

I use the same charger and sync cable for both my iPad and iPhone

[Ed209]

The EU made them release an adapter that any micro usb can plug into. Its basically just the end bit to the current apple adapter, but without the cable so you can plug your own one in.

[t8yman]

the only connectivity gripes that I am aware of are that some docking stations (including one that I own) "arent compatible with iphone 4", which is the warning that comes up on the screen of the device. it still works (ie the sound still comes out) , it just doesn't always charge.

some wont work at all afaik. but as has been said - I am still using a 7 year old ipod cable to charge all of my devices - ipad, ipod, iphone. Damn you apple!!! Damn you to hell Steve "so called" Jobs!!!!

i lost count of how many different nokia, sony etc chargers have been through my life.

[t8yman]

that would be the touch ipods tony? I kinda meant that gen, but was nowhere near clear enough. ive never heard of a classic not being compatible, and have no experience of nanos past the 3rd gen.

[the_hedge]

Well the Sensation XE arrived this morning. Lovely looking phone with a sturdy feel to it which I like. The Beats Audio headphones are pretty good as well! It's a bit of a jump up from the 3G screen wise.

[Purple Monkey]

So er...now Jobs is gone - who are Android product manufacturers going to copy now?

[eFestivals]

so what do people think is the best web browser for Andriod?

The one I'm using (no idea what, the phone came with it installed) is a bit annoying, because it doesn't display things in quite the same way as the browsers on my PC do.

[5co77ie]

I use dolphin although the finger movements can be a pain.

[5co77ie]

The launch of 4G mobile internet and broadband in the UK will be delayed by the regulator postponing a £3bn auction of licences.

http://www.independe...es-2368761.html

[eFestivals]

Atomic Browser is good on the iPhone and allows you to identify your phone as various states (like Mobile, Desktop) etc.

I guess it would be as good on Android...

thanks, but it doesn't seem to exist for Andriod.

[kaosmark2]

I use dolphin although the finger movements can be a pain.

[windy_miller]

so what do people think is the best web browser for Andriod?

The one I'm using (no idea what, the phone came with it installed) is a bit annoying, because it doesn't display things in quite the same way as the browsers on my PC do.

[eFestivals]

This is a feature of the websites you are visiting, not the browser. They notice you are using a phone and change their layout to fit a smaller screen. This is usually a good thing,

yeah, I've since realised that and found out the snippet of header code needed to make that happen.

It's not actually a changed layout on a website, but a feature within the browsers of phones which is triggered by the header code I mention above ('standard' desktop browsers ignore that snippet of code).

[rexclark]

Clearly you'd all be better off with a Blackberry.

[The Nal]

Cant really use Efests on my android phone. No choice to choose the most recent page of a topic, always goes to page 1.