Casual Observation...

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Basically, I like people that are similar to Jack Dee or Comic Book Guy. They don't go out of their way to give anybody any hassle; they just quietly sit back, observe, stick to themselves and wallow in their own self-pity; occasionally making the odd impeccably timed sarcastic comment here or there just to feel smug knowing that they're better than everybody else.

Glastonbury is too bloody happy for me and the town itself is empty of people that I like.

[Leyser]

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[Dave The Hedgehog]

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[loscfestivals]

If the lineup isn't spectacular then I'll buy mine the week before off ebay for likely a lot less than face.

Doesn't always work out that way but not going to fork out at the moment after the last few lineups.

My take on Glastonbury as it comes up in this thread quite a bit is that it is just a little of middle class people petending to be hippys for the weekend before returning to their student/comfortable life. The whole concept is bollocks and it is very over crowded and near impossible to get around when it rains. Been twice, hated it twice and thought the people were right smug w*nkers

[VCK]

Nothing wrong with people being nice at festivals. I thought the friendly vibe at Glastonbury was a refreshing change to the utter twats I've encountered over the years at Leeds.

For example, the last night of Glastonbury 2009, I sat outside my tent - still on a comedown after watching a phenomenal set by Blur - and I was relaxing with a nice quiet beer, looking over the spectacular view of the site, with the odd person in view enjoying themselves and not causing any hassle. Bliss. Rewind to the last night of Leeds 2008 when there was explosions left, right and centre, huge fires, some scouse (or was he a Manc?) prick trying to break into my tent then using an excuse which was "yer got aneh cigs meeeeert?", and Skins-wannabe teenagers with "random" senses of humour who think Topshop is amazing "going well mental" kicking my tent pegs out. I did find the atmosphere at Leeds '09 a bit friendlier, I must admit, but after that last night in 2008 I was glad to be out of there. Was glad to have none of that at Glasto although the walk back to the car park on the Monday morning must have been as painful as any gas cannister explosion...

That said, the Wednesday evening I arrived at Glastonbury some randomer gave me a rejected high five. Cut me up inside, that did.

Edited December 12, 2010 by VCK

[JC-Mo'Fucka]

Basically, I like people that are similar to Jack Dee or Comic Book Guy. They don't go out of their way to give anybody any hassle; they just quietly sit back, observe, stick to themselves and wallow in their own self-pity; occasionally making the odd impeccably timed sarcastic comment here or there just to feel smug knowing that they're better than everybody else.

Glastonbury is too bloody happy for me and the town itself is empty of people that I like.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

you don't find that at any fest though, a festival of jack dee's would be the hardest audience ever

[Bradders]

Dave, it's really not a festival full of hippy's. I'd describe it more as a festival full of people who love festivals. You've picked up a fairly common stereotype of the place where you think everyone is a twee tree-hugger, and for this reason you seem to be trying to talk yourself out of it.

I'm a lot like you (not quite as miserable, but not far off ) and I love it. Just go, you will too.

Edited December 13, 2010 by Bradders

[RichieParf]

Dave, it's really not a festival full of hippy's. I'd describe it more as a festival full of people who love festivals. You've picked up a fairly common stereotype of the place where you think everyone is a twee tree-hugger, and for this reason you seem to be trying to talk yourself out of it.

[Bradders]

I considered working a point like that into my post, but then I realised the stereotype of Leeds is actually pretty spot on

[VCK]

Yeah, you get a great mix of people at Glastonbury, people from all walks of life basically.

Although you do see the odd person who is "in touch with mother nature" after smoking one spliff, in the only time of year they get away from their 9-5 office job.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Dave, it's really not a festival full of hippy's. I'd describe it more as a festival full of people who love festivals. You've picked up a fairly common stereotype of the place where you think everyone is a twee tree-hugger, and for this reason you seem to be trying to talk yourself out of it.

I'm a lot like you (not quite as miserable, but not far off ) and I love it. Just go, you will too.

[Bradders]

I can't really comprehend your points so I don't know what to say. You think there's too much on and it's too big? I kind of see your point but that's a mild frustration and ultimately a very good thing, you're never bored.

You don't like that everyone's too friendly but then equally you don't like that it's a large disconnected city where nobody knows each other? Well it isn't, because everyone's so friendly you can chat with almost anyone whenever you like.

The one thing I don't like about Glastonbury is you get a lot of middle-aged middle-class (I usually get slagged off for using that phrase but I stand by it) people who just go to 'do Glasto'. They keep themselves to themselves, rarely leave their camping chairs in front of the Pyramid and don't really seem to enjoy it. They occasionally shake your head or get a bit annoyed if you look like you're a bit drunk, getting too near to them or having too much fun. I don't like people like that being around but it's their loss, not mine. Those are pretty much the worst kind of person I've ever met at Glastonbury, and they're not even that bad...

[Dave The Hedgehog]

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That might help you understand a bit better, Bradders.

That's why I don't like the idea of Glastonbury. It's called overkill. One can argue that it's great value for money considering you get half of what Glastonbury offers for the same price at, say, Leeds or Isle of Wight festival but then the flipside is because there is so much, you barely see half of it anyway - so is it really good value for money? I mean, I wouldn't pay £20 to see a band somewhere just so I can spend half of the time standing outside in the pub.

Glastonbury gives you a lot of choice but then an overdose of choice can sometimes be a bad thing, and it can be intimidating. I find that at least.

The prospect of being confronted with 600 different things to see and do simply doesn't appeal to a person who likes to do things one step at a time with a certain degree of organisation, or plan even, and who tries to see as much of it as possible.

In all honesty, I've never really seen the appeal of Glastonbury and any time I do try to open my eyes a little bit and poke around for information, I start to resent the people that say "oh it's such a magical place - you should go!" before I even have the chance to decide for myself. Then if I have the chance to find anything out for myself, I usually find myself confronted with the line-up - which looks more like an ancient papyrus dug from the burial chamber of an Egyptian essayist than a palatable poster that I could put up on my wall to reminisce about 10 years later.

And besides the point, if it's Coldplay, U2 and Prince this coming year then Glastonbury can f**k off as far as I'm concerned. Prince is alright but I have no respect for the other two.

[Bradders]

Yeah you seem a lot like me regarding the one step at a time, not liking ott friendliness and all that. I was also stubbornly sure I wouldn't like it that much aswell

The sheer fact that people on a different festival's forum are in 100% (as far as I've seen) agreement that it's the better festival should give you a hint. You rarely see this much rabid fanboyism for any other festival, although I appreciate that in itself is quite annoying, so I'll leave it now

Edited December 14, 2010 by Bradders

[Dave The Hedgehog]

But that's another thing that annoys the hell out of me as well with Glastonbury - the sheer arrogance of people who look at me disbelievingly when I tell them that I don't "get it" in the same way my nieces think I'm weird because I tell them that I "don't get" Cheryl Cole; it's as if you're supposed to like this damn thing because the status quo dictates you must, and if you don't then you must surely be put to death.

I mean, f**k off. I don't like the idea of going to a festival because the idea of paying £200 to miss 70% of what I'm paying for doesn't appeal to me, and if every f**ker around me is happy or ready to pounce on me the minute I stand on a sacred acorn and smother me with bubbles, I'll charge at them Goldeneye N64 style and chop their f**king arms off with the edges of my bare hands.

...I might check it out at some point.

[Bradders]

But that's another thing that annoys the hell out of me as well with Glastonbury - the sheer arrogance of people who look at me disbelievingly when I tell them that I don't "get it" in the same way my nieces think I'm weird because I tell them that I "don't get" Cheryl Cole; it's as if you're supposed to like this damn thing because the status quo dictates you must, and if you don't then you must surely be put to death.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Bradders

[Dave The Hedgehog]

To be fair, it's a bit silly to say you don't "get" it when you've never even been.

[Bradders]

am I really that clinically stupid to not see what they see or am I so ridiculously clever that I don't fall for it?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Neither, you just haven't been so you don't know the full appeal.

[Bradders]

What is the appeal then?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I'm not eloquent enough to properly describe it.

[rachbon]

if you went to glastonbury you probably wouldn't enjoy it because you're already thinking to yourself that you won't.

you should try being a bit more laid back and open minded. it's good fun.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

if you went to glastonbury you probably wouldn't enjoy it because you're already thinking to yourself that you won't.

you should try being a bit more laid back and open minded. it's good fun.

[rachbon]

If I already have the idea in my head that Glastonbury doesn't appeal to me, why would I even make a decision to go there in the first place? It wouldn't make sense to go somewhere that you know you won't like. It'd be like drinking toilet duck even though you know it'd make you vomit blood.

Just because something doesn't appeal to me doesn't make me uptight or closed-minded. It just means it doesn't appeal to me. There's nothing wrong with not liking something.

Edited December 16, 2010 by _rachelbon