This is getting ridiculous!

[Mark Pooler]

For all of you that didn't get tickets(me likewise)I'm trying to start a twitter network. Follow me on @DaddyPig76 and I will in turn follow you and build a bit of a "strength in numbers". I don't get on e-Fests as much because it is hard to access through my phone. But come on people we can do this! I am a firm believer that if you put the effort in, you WILL be rewarded. Remember @DaddyPig76

[Pinhead]

Can't see See wanting the hassle of cancelling any tickets anyway, irrespective of any corporate wide T&C's they might or might not have. The negative PR alone would put them off now at this stage.

[eFestivals]

So really the 8x Ticket thing is not enforcable in any way. I wonder why they say it when they cannot enforce it ?

By the way i am not trying to be argumentative i just dont understand

I think it's simply the standard See terms for the sale of any tickets, not just Glastonbury's.

But having it there, it means that they're able to (not "they definitely will do") act against touts when they feel they need to. If it wasn't there, they'd be obliged to honour any sale, even if it was a tout that had snapped up all of the tickets to anything.

[fumps]

But what baffles me is when i was at Glastonbury 2008 i met a dude in the cue who's ticket was'nt his. he'd bought a ticket from a random dude on his local gumtree for £250 . the picture didn't even look like him. And he got through i have read a few reports of people doing this but only in small numbers.

Now if someone can purchase x24 tickets on the ticket release day ...are we not going back towards the touting dark days ??

if you play the regestration system right you can still tout surley

or am i missing something really obvious ?

being honest i thought thats why we were limited to 8x tickets

[eFestivals]

But what baffles me is when i was at Glastonbury 2008 i met a dude in the cue who's ticket was'nt his. he'd bought a ticket from a random dude on his local gumtree for £250 . the picture didn't even look like him. And he got through i have read a few reports of people doing this but only in small numbers.

Now if someone can purchase x24 tickets on the ticket release day ...are we not going back towards the touting dark days ??

if you play the regestration system right you can still tout surley

or am i missing something really obvious ?

being honest i thought thats why we were limited to 8x tickets

While it's possible to get in with someone else's ticket, they do check the faces (sometimes, at least - have always had mine checked), and there's definitely been instances where someone who doesn't have a ticket which is theirs is refused entry and the ticket taken from them.

So anyone buying a ticket from a tout is a mug, because they might well be pissing their money up the wall.

[duncbob]

While it's possible to get in with someone else's ticket, they do check the faces (sometimes, at least - have always had mine checked), and there's definitely been instances where someone who doesn't have a ticket which is theirs is refused entry and the ticket taken from them.

So anyone buying a ticket from a tout is a mug, because they might well be pissing their money up the wall.

[eFestivals]

Doesn't stop the tout from selling it though.

Not having willing buyers does tho!

I wouldn't buy a ticket from a tout, as I know it might well be worthless.

[sizzlefee]

Hey guys

Gutted i didn't get a ticket this year after bashing f5 for 4 and a half hours! Last year a friend of mine paid a quid to a website who used to send a txt to him everytime the glasto website changed.. in the hope that when tickets go back on a cheeky resale he could get one. Anyone know if there is a website like this for this year?

Thanks

[duncbob]

Not having willing buyers does tho!

I wouldn't buy a ticket from a tout, as I know it might well be worthless.

[eFestivals]

A rumoured 700,000 wanting tickets

It was a greater number than that that failed to get tickets. There were approx 875,000 trying on Sunday.

I'm sure there are plenty of chumps desperate to try their luck in that 565,000.

It's still a risk for any tout. So there's better opportunities they'll go for in preference - after all, any tout will have a fixed amount of money to work with, and they'll go for the easiest tickets to get and the easiest to sell, along with the tickets they can turn over the quickest.

The turnover with Glasto tickets is poorer than for just about any other ticket, because their touting money would be tied up from October until they had the ticket in their hand to sell in June. Instead they could have turned over tickets for (say) 4 shows over that time, and made 4 times the profit that they'd make with the far slower turning-over Glasto tickets.

[Mark Pooler]

I saw lots of people having the pictures on their tickets checked year. Mainly whilst re-entering to do a car-run. These checks were done more by security staff and not gate staff. I personally saw 4 rejected and having their bands cut off.

[smog]

Its definitely easier for touts to make cash on other events but there is still a lot of it going on with Glasto tickets.

I was keeping an eye on the ebay thread as some mates wanted tickets and didnt really care what price they had to pay as long as it wasnt extortionate. eBay might have only had a hundred or so tickets from people who couldnt go and they were getting reported and taken down as fast as the few were selling.

Craigslist was a different matter - There was a guy in Staffordshire alone with 30 tickets for sale, all registered to random names and all with pretty non descript photographs. £300 and as far as I know, they all sold. My mates got in with two of them. There was a LOT in the London area too.

It will go on as long as there is a market for them and with 800k people trying to buy tickets its always going to have a market. Big risk you will get turned away on the gate but a fair chance you will get in too. Some people have too much money to burn

[Pinhead]

Hmm - I wonder if the unlimited transactions facility this year might have worstened this situation . . .

[smog]

well - its like neil says - its a lot of cash to put up early and not get anything back for a while.

jusging by tout prices for most events though these guys probably arent short of income so there will no doubt be a fair few up for sale next year.

regardless its 100 times better than it was pre registration

[Pinhead]

Yes - its certainly still far better than it used to be. Kind of miss the simpler years of going down the record store to get them though.

[fumps]

Yeh this is the danger & couple this with the blatent frustration that some (not all) people are showing this year it could start to happen.

The dude in the cue i was chatting to had shaved his head to look a bit more like the pic, i was laughing because he did not look anything like the picture, his attitude was bugger it, if i get refused thats that. he was wearing a hat & sunglasses just to do anything to add some confusion.

The comical thing was when he went through i got stopped by security (As i always do) but my ticket was not checked. After the man with the rubber glove let me go i walked in & he was stood at the other side of the gates laughing hysterically. He wanted to let me know what happened.

I could hardly believe my eyes. The thing that struck me was that the Tout had done his sale & the lad was now taking the risk.

But this is the danger, it happens & is still happening now.

I really really dont want to go back to the bad old days.....that was beyond a joke seeing tickets selling for £450 ......

Edited October 6, 2010 by fumps

[eFestivals]

heard back from See, and been referred to the man at Glasto. Am waiting to hear back from him (couldn't get thru on the phone)

However, if See were implementing that condition then I'm sure he'd have said they were - so I remain confident that it's not a condition that applies.

I've just got off the phone to the man who runs the ticketing side of things for Glastonbury Festival.

He tells me that genuine buyers have no need to fear about having used the same debit card for a number of transactions. Because of the registration scheme, the tickets are ending up with the specific people they've been bought for.

The festival do however reserve the right to cancel tickets if they feel they need to - such as, for example, if they knew that those tickets were being touted.

So anyway, that clears that up.

==============

He asked my opinion on how I'd thought the sale had gone, and I gave him as feedback some of the stuff that's been posted on here. Specifically, I drew his attention to many people feeling that being able to make more than one transaction once you'd got to the buying page was wrong.

He said that when he's properly reviewing how things went to try to improve things for the future, all the comments he's been given (by more than just me, obviously) will be considered.

[Pinhead]

Many thanks Neil for clarifying their position for us and supplying them with that feedback.

[eFestivals]

regardless its 100 times better than it was pre registration

yep - and i think some people are too easily forgetting this.

Eavis didn't have to go to the trouble and expense of cutting the best deal possible with an agent (which he's passed onto you), or with the anti-touting registration scheme - he could be like every other festival and do as good as nothing.

At the end of the day, there's little that can be done to make things better than they currently are - where there's more buyers than tickets some people are going to be left unhappy (and I dread the day it's me). The most perfect system cannot ever remove that unhappiness.

I've just been considering if I think the tickets should sell out in 20 minutes rather than 4 hours - and I don't think they should. For a start I think it would create more moans: "I didn't have a chance, they were gone so quickly", etc. And of course it would mean that those less dedicated to getting a ticket would get one - more casuals would tho if not over a few hours.

Edited October 6, 2010 by eFestivals

[Pinhead]

True - its a pretty good system all told. I reckon that retaining the 'buy more tickets' option however might actually lead to faster sell outs in future. I don't think it necessarily reduced the number of 'casuals' this year either - they were often simply sold to casuals from facebook and similar instead.

As many have correctly said however, no system will give everyone a chance to go.

[whisty]

If the Festival is so poular right now then maybe going back to 4 tickets per app could be an idea. At least it would strech things out a bit more.

[eFestivals]

If the Festival is so poular right now then maybe going back to 4 tickets per app could be an idea. At least it would strech things out a bit more.

I reckon 8 is about right - lots of people go in biggish groups, and four often wouldn't be enough for one family .... do they leave one of their kids home alone?

I've been told that I'll be given the numbers for how many bought 8 tickets in one go, once they've got them together. However, the guy who runs the ticketing for Glasto indicated that it's likely to be a tiny proportion, if things have been the same as in previous years. So it doesn't appear that 8 per transaction is a big issue in the scheme of things.

[amfy]

True - its a pretty good system all told. I reckon that retaining the 'buy more tickets' option however might actually lead to faster sell outs in future. I don't think it necessarily reduced the number of 'casuals' this year either - they were often simply sold to casuals from facebook and similar instead.

As many have correctly said however, no system will give everyone a chance to go.

[llcoolphil]

I reckon 8 is about right - lots of people go in biggish groups, and four often wouldn't be enough for one family .... do they leave one of their kids home alone?

I've been told that I'll be given the numbers for how many bought 8 tickets in one go, once they've got them together. However, the guy who runs the ticketing for Glasto indicated that it's likely to be a tiny proportion, if things have been the same as in previous years. So it doesn't appear that 8 per transaction is a big issue in the scheme of things.

[5co77ie]

If the Festival is so poular right now then maybe going back to 4 tickets per app could be an idea. At least it would strech things out a bit more.