Football 2010-2011

[ampersand]

Outside the old 'big five' (that Tottenham, Arsenal, Man Utd, Everton and Liverpool for the youngsters) which club has spent the most time in the top flight in the past 50 years?

I didn't get this - well I did but it took me a few guesses.

[Tugger2k]

Outside the old 'big five' (that Tottenham, Arsenal, Man Utd, Everton and Liverpool for the youngsters) which club has spent the most time in the top flight in the past 50 years?

I didn't get this - well I did but it took me a few guesses.

[TheGayTent]

nope and nope

[Tugger2k]

nope and nope

[jump]

West Ham?

[ralph250]

Outside the old 'big five' (that Tottenham, Arsenal, Man Utd, Everton and Liverpool for the youngsters) which club has spent the most time in the top flight in the past 50 years?

I didn't get this - well I did but it took me a few guesses.

[ralph250]

yep - Yossi was more than decent.

What I can't quite grasp tho is why - when his complaint about Liverpool was not being first choice (tho he should have been) - he's swapped that for another club where he had even less chance of getting minutes on the pitch.

[ralph250]

If not those, Newcastle?

[The Nal]

Edit - Villa

Edited February 18, 2011 by The Nal

[TheGayTent]

Yep it's us - suprising

[Benj]

It seems like Liverpool only actually paid £30M for Carroll, and not £35M. In which case they stitched Chelsea up.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-Andy-Carroll-cost-a-highly-unusual-30million-up-front-plus-25-of-any-sell-on-fee-as-Newcastle-played-hardball-on-transfer-deadline-day-article700813.html

[Benj]

Yep, he was completely shit. It's the worst I've seen him play (and he's played very badly many times before). The whole team were just too static.

Ngog was matched in shitness by many other players on the park last night. Including one close to your heart.

[eFestivals]

£30 million spunked up front! Jeez, Newcastle must have been really laughing, thought it would at least be spread over a few years like most deals.

I'm pretty sure that Liverpool have had Chelsea pay for Torres up-front too, so it's all relative.

Why have Chelsea been done?

cos they were supposedly told that they had to pay £15M more for Torres than Liverpool were paying for Carroll.

If all the various stories are true (and I accept they might not be, or some might not be) then Liverpool shafted Chelsea for an extra £5M.

[eFestivals]

Still rate him over Darren Bent?

Like most of top-level footie, I don't much rate Darren Bent despite his scoring record.

That aside, if players are to be judged on yesterday's performance alone, then Meireles and others who played last night are similarly shit to Ngog too - and hopefully you're wise enough to recognise that Meireles and some others are not.

Any player plays at their best within a whole team that's working well - and nothing about Liverpool last night worked well, so that's not a game to make any permanent judgement of any players from.

[Benj]

I'm pretty sure that Liverpool have had Chelsea pay for Torres up-front too, so it's all relative.

cos they were supposedly told that they had to pay £15M more for Torres than Liverpool were paying for Carroll.

If all the various stories are true (and I accept they might not be, or some might not be) then Liverpool shafted Chelsea for an extra £5M.

[ralph250]

I'm pretty sure that Liverpool have had Chelsea pay for Torres up-front too, so it's all relative.

[Benj]

Edited February 18, 2011 by Benj

[ampersand]

so what happens when he does a shevchenko and they sell him after 2 seasons?

got great confidence in him succeeding don't they...

[ralph250]

I'd genuinely be surprised if Newcastle got all the Carroll cash up front too, the Mirror is about as believable as the Daily Mash

[ralph250]

so what happens when he does a shevchenko and they sell him after 2 seasons?

got great confidence in him succeeding don't they...

[Benj]

Like most of top-level footie, I don't much rate Darren Bent despite his scoring record.

That aside, if players are to be judged on yesterday's performance alone, then Meireles and others who played last night are similarly shit to Ngog too - and hopefully you're wise enough to recognise that Meireles and some others are not.

Any player plays at their best within a whole team that's working well - and nothing about Liverpool last night worked well, so that's not a game to make any permanent judgement of any players from.

[Benj]

Well if that happens, presume a pretty hefty loss, compounded if sell-on clause does exist.

End of the day though, any transfer is a risk. It's a f**kload of money for someone with limited top level experience but could well work out fine for them. Guy deserves a chance (and more than a 6 months) to see how he does at least.

[ralph250]

I think he was talking about Torres. The same applies though, they take the hit and pay the invoices, like you do if your house price drops by 50%.

Either way its better than paying all up front.

Edited February 18, 2011 by ralph250

[ampersand]

Well if that happens, presume a pretty hefty loss, compounded if sell-on clause does exist.

End of the day though, any transfer is a risk. It's a f**kload of money for someone with limited top level experience but could well work out fine for them. Guy deserves a chance (and more than a 6 months) to see how he does at least.

[ralph250]

no i'm talking torres. they've paid £24 million and he has two flops of a season. do they keep him to save face and keep up the 'smaller' payments or do they chuck him and give all of the transfer money that they've gained (and possibly more) to pay off their liverpool debt.