A plan to ease the traffic

[paulo999]

Don't forget that transport was only so horrendous last year because of the accidents on the M5 which f**ked the whole of the west country. It was bad luck

[Spliffman]

Yes, but if the traffic is as bad as last year. what can be done to ease the problem?

[cejx]

As I've stated before - Why not have different coloured car park tickets - perhaps 4 different colours each one with different entry times spread between 9am on Tuesday to 9pm Tuesday;

Randomise selection of ticketing , or better still give those furthest to travel the first entry time;

Its not to late to do this - and it will keep locals happier as no bottlenecks on Tuesday (was wednesday) of people waiting at the gate?

[paulo999]

Yes, but if the traffic is as bad as last year. what can be done to ease the problem?

[abu hamster]

What a stupid idea. Hows about means testing the tickets and having a limited number of tickets for those in the higher tax brackets who obviously think this is a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spliffman]

It sounds like a good idea but its remarkably unfair, given the ethos of the festival its like saying the richer you are the more you can enjoy. The way it is now apart from hospitality everyone is pretty much the same, which is the way it should be. (Obviously outside of this there are other limiting factors) and if the price increase is only minor and not prohibitively expensive then it won't cut down enough anyway.

The only real way to cut congestion is as mentioned before and countless other options is to make public transport the number 1 way to travel.

[Laura_Babs]

Open the car parks early?

Seriously though, the only thing I can think of would be to massively hike the car park fee and use the excess to subsidize the coaches. But there'd be alot of complaints about that I'm sure.

[EasyUserName]

Why not stagger the carparks?

That is, that the earlier you arrive, the further you park?

That would work well - because, it would make people decide what they want more - arriving earlier, or being closer. Stop people from forming a line outside the gate, and only open a field at a time.

[mikeb]

Hahahahahaha. I just love the way you peeps get all upset at an idea that would actually work (or at least would work about as as well as other ideas will work anyway) but it obviously has to be a *really* bad idea ... just because it has negative implications for YOU Hahahahahahaha. But taking extra time off work or whatever and coming early in a nice car that you own or rent just for the occasion so you can bring shedloads of nice stuff that you don't actually need of course in most cases is somehow perfectly OK and is somehow NOT giving priority to those who can afford it etc Hahahahahah. Oh the amusement of at all !

However, the simple fact appears to be that virtually all discussion in this area is almost exclusively based on self interest and absolutely nothing much else. You all like car parks opening early cos it's good for you. You don't really give a flying fcuk for anyone else or the local residents for that matter either, it's primarily all about you. Exactly the same could be said for the festival of course unfortunately. More peeps on site and spending money earlier is hardly a bad thing is it and allegedly helping locals is primarily just a d@mn good excuse. It's quite clearly self interest above principles all the way IMHO.

Open the car parks early?

Edited February 28, 2010 by mikeb

[LondonTom]

Poor people can't afford to pay £4oo to go to Glastonbury in the first place!

What would you suggest a free festival?

[EasyUserName]

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OPENING THE CAR PARKS 12 HOURS LATE

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[paulo999]

OK, here's another one (just for mike )

Open the actual festival site Tuesday lunchtime for coach arrivals.

*runs away*

[EasyUserName]

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Issuing Car Park tickets ONLY valid for Weds AM, Weds PM, Thurs AM or Thurs PM etc. on a first come first served basis would be yet another quick and simple option to stagger arrivals of course. ...

[EasyUserName]

OK, here's another one (just for mike )

Open the actual festival site Tuesday lunchtime for coach arrivals.

*runs away*

[dan05delaney]

Why would that be a bad idea?

Edited February 28, 2010 by dan05delaney

[paulo999]

that is actually the opposite... the earlier the ppl wanna get on site, the more they have to relay on public transport... and See's and National express's ability to organise coach travel

also it would do blah blah blah C02 balh blah blah

[EasyUserName]

that is actually the opposite... the earlier the ppl wanna get on site, the more they have to relay on public transport... and See's and National express's ability to organise coach travel

also it would do blah blah blah C02 balh blah blah

[mikeb]

Well, since only a finate amount of people can arrive via public transport, and they can only carry a finate amount of stuff, all that this would do is reduce the amount of cars a little, and move the traffic crush 12 hours later.

Edited February 28, 2010 by mikeb

[dan05delaney]

Shouldn't that be rewarded though? Putting up with the public transport issues?

[EasyUserName]

If you believe the published figures (and I'm not entirely sure that I do TBH) 30% of peeps overall come by means other than car and most of those do so Wednesday. It would therefore seem totally practical for that to be easily closer to 50% leaving the other 50% primarily car arrivals for Thursday. Last year more than 2/3rds of peeps apparently arrived on Wednesday. Trying to get the split more like 50:50 has to be good. Increasing arrivals by means other a car has to be even better. Non-car arrivals are very easily managed to ensure minimum disruption and delays etc. because they are naturally spread out over the day. Unpopular but defo doable I would suggest. Coaches or whatever a few hours earlier would have a negligible benefit I think due to lengthy journey times and not being enough of a discouragement for car drivers as well. The object is to somehow make alternatives to using the car much more attractive as wel las spreading out arrivals over a sensible timeframe.

[mikeb]

OK, here's another one (just for mike )

Open the actual festival site Tuesday lunchtime for coach arrivals.

*runs away*

[paulo999]

But that's simply not doable. Giving priority to peeps who travel responsibly is doable. Spreading out arrivals over a longer timeframe and having peak in arrivals not coincident with a peak in normal traffic is doable. If you genuinely believe that the 12 hours early option is good for the right reasons then the 12 hours late option simply has to be better for the exact same right reasons plus the additional benefits !

[EasyUserName]

But that's simply not doable. Giving priority to peeps who travel responsibly is doable. Spreading out arrivals over a longer timeframe and having peak in arrivals not coincident with a peak in normal traffic is doable. If you genuinely believe that the 12 hours early option is good for the right reasons then the 12 hours late option simply has to be better for the exact same right reasons plus the additional benefits !

[mikeb]

If your plan worked though, it would see mostly 50% arrive via "other" on the Wed, and the remaining 50% arrive via car more or less on Thursday - leaving the congestion issue unresolved.

Also, to be honest, if getting on site was the key issue, for me, I would suggest that I go via bus on the Wed, take only tents, and get the site pitched, waiting for the rest of stuff via friends on Thursday.

Edited February 28, 2010 by mikeb

[Rachie]

OPENING THE CAR PARKS 12 HOURS LATE

Edited February 28, 2010 by Rachie