any Orbital rumours?

[plaskins]

Oh my god what an atmosphere. Really hope they confirm for Glastonbury-does seem they are doing every other festival going. That could be a good or bad thing

Those two men raving at 1.39 make me

[Mardy]

they should either call it a day for good and stop living off past glories (they were once an important band producing new and exciting music!) or start making an effort to write some new tunes,

[Bort]

So basically they want to play Glasto but haven't been invited yet, and doubtfully will because most of the big names have already been lined up.

[timespeedsup]

So basically they want to play Glasto but haven't been invited yet, and doubtfully will because most of the big names have already been lined up.

[J1mbo]

they should either call it a day for good and stop living off past glories (they were once an important band producing new and exciting music!) or start making an effort to write some new tunes, the last decent one they came up with was the box and that must be nearly fifteen years ago ffs! seems to be all about the cash these days for the hartnolls so they've a cheek for claiming glasto is too commercial and after seeing them last year i wouldn't even bother checking them out again even if they do play, sure they still have some classics but a lot of their back catalogue just hasn't stood the test of time and some of its just plain embarrassing plinky plonky semi ambient bollocks and as for that cheesey belinda carlisle nonsense the less said the better! i can think of plenty of dance acts who deserve the slot more than orbital, bands that are still recording new and progressive music, richie hawtin is taking his plastikman live show back on the road again and would be an inspired choice for one of the big stages, real techno instead of another one of orbitals tired sets!

[Memory Man]

Also you seem to have missed the irony of banging on about new and progressive dance acts, and then suggesting the increasingly irrelevent and boring Ritchie Hawtin play 'one of the big stages' at Glastonbury: a dance pioneer who these days sounds almost exactly the same as he did in his heyday and who in his more reflective moments could very easily be accused of making 'plinky plonky semi ambient bollocks' (Pakard anyone?).

[laid back in the sun]

whats with the *YAWN*? did you just listen to an orbital bootleg from last years shows? tbh i may have been overly kind saying the box was the last good track they've produced, i dont really rate it that highly at all but compared to whats came since it sounds like a work of f**kin genius! and yes i am a REAL techno fan, infact im a fan of REAL music in general although going by your love of the belinda carlisle rubbish you obviously prefer your music to have a novelty/gimicky/cheesey sample element to it but each to their own, now that i think about it you're the first person i've ever heard publicly admit to liking it, your names not paul/phil/belinda by any chance?? but hey if dj magazine say they're the best live act of the year who am i to argue, although i seen pissed up buskers put on better shows last year. you may not be a fan of hawtin but to say he sounds exactly the same as his 'heyday' (whenever that was??) is one of the most ill informed comments i've ever read here, if you want to hear 'exactly the same' keep going to orbital shows cos they're as samey as you'll ever get. hawtins sound and styles vary with every release but its probably too subtle/intricate/complex for your ears and i think you'll find he still packs out clubs around the world every night of the week and still manages to release fresh critically acclaimed material on a regular basis so obviously not that boring or irrelevant whereas snorbital have done nothing new in years, nobody outside the uk gives a shit about them and their next release is another compilation i believe (presumably consisting mostly of tracks from the first two albums because lets face it it was all downhill from there), way to go lads keep milking that legacy till its been totally done to death! you'd have thought after all those years off they'd have managed to find a bit of inspiration for something new somewhere along the line, its not like any of it was used up with that longrange project, but hey so long as people are still prepared to give them their cash for doing nothing new they'll keep taking it. i really hope the eavis's have taken offence to the comments made last year about glasto being too commercial and never have them back again, its no more than they deserve. i'll always have happy memories of their '94 glasto appearance but every time i've seen them since the disappointment has just grown and grown to the point where i wont waste my time with them again.

[Guest musiclove123]

I just want the chance to see their tunes live-I don't care that they havent done much new material

[J1mbo]

whats with the *YAWN*? did you just listen to an orbital bootleg from last years shows? tbh i may have been overly kind saying the box was the last good track they've produced, i dont really rate it that highly at all but compared to whats came since it sounds like a work of f**kin genius! and yes i am a REAL techno fan, infact im a fan of REAL music in general although going by your love of the belinda carlisle rubbish you obviously prefer your music to have a novelty/gimicky/cheesey sample element to it but each to their own, now that i think about it you're the first person i've ever heard publicly admit to liking it, your names not paul/phil/belinda by any chance?? but hey if dj magazine say they're the best live act of the year who am i to argue, although i seen pissed up buskers put on better shows last year. you may not be a fan of hawtin but to say he sounds exactly the same as his 'heyday' (whenever that was??) is one of the most ill informed comments i've ever read here, if you want to hear 'exactly the same' keep going to orbital shows cos they're as samey as you'll ever get. hawtins sound and styles vary with every release but its probably too subtle/intricate/complex for your ears and i think you'll find he still packs out clubs around the world every night of the week and still manages to release fresh critically acclaimed material on a regular basis so obviously not that boring or irrelevant whereas snorbital have done nothing new in years, nobody outside the uk gives a shit about them and their next release is another compilation i believe (presumably consisting mostly of tracks from the first two albums because lets face it it was all downhill from there), way to go lads keep milking that legacy till its been totally done to death! you'd have thought after all those years off they'd have managed to find a bit of inspiration for something new somewhere along the line, its not like any of it was used up with that longrange project, but hey so long as people are still prepared to give them their cash for doing nothing new they'll keep taking it. i really hope the eavis's have taken offence to the comments made last year about glasto being too commercial and never have them back again, its no more than they deserve. i'll always have happy memories of their '94 glasto appearance but every time i've seen them since the disappointment has just grown and grown to the point where i wont waste my time with them again.

[mouth]

Well I'm an orbital lover. to be fair i dont really care about the lack of new material. obviously it'd be good but i like being taken back and as they grew up in otford down the road its always good to see local boys do well. There (last" show in 04 was one of the best nights ive had. not just because of them but who i was with and how much we all loved it. I saw them in brighton last year and enjoyed that to. cant see them playing this year. I just cant imagine 2 big dance acts headlining the other stage and i 've got a feeling about the chems doing a live set. if it happened it'd be good though.

[Guest musiclove123]

Well I'm an orbital lover. to be fair i dont really care about the lack of new material. obviously it'd be good but i like being taken back and as they grew up in otford down the road its always good to see local boys do well. There (last" show in 04 was one of the best nights ive had. not just because of them but who i was with and how much we all loved it. I saw them in brighton last year and enjoyed that to. cant see them playing this year. I just cant imagine 2 big dance acts headlining the other stage and i 've got a feeling about the chems doing a live set. if it happened it'd be good though.

[0rbita1]

Hmmm-do you think maybe Orbital could play other stage say Friday Night, Faithless Saturday and maybe Chems Sunday? If they all played that is? Or do you think Orbital could prehaps be second to top headliner?

[deschwah]

I can't be bothered forming anything like a considered reply to this bitter, bile filled and incredibly contradictory drivel.

Here's a suggestion : perhaps if you don't like Orbital (and lets face it - you don't really like anything they've ever done bar two records) you might try and find another topic devoted to this real music stuff you rate so highly?

Perhaps start a your own thread entitled 'REAL music!!!' so you and your fellow musical purists can reassure each other of the 'subtle/intricate/complex' nature of the stuff the rest of us are just to undemanding to appreciate. It'll be fun! Like masturbating!

[Memory Man]

Hmmm-do you think maybe Orbital could play other stage say Friday Night, Faithless Saturday and maybe Chems Sunday? If they all played that is? Or do you think Orbital could prehaps be second to top headliner?

[plaskins]

the main problem with that is that there's no way they'd have 3 "Dance" Headliners.

But that would be fine by me!

[Guest musiclove123]

I think it is fine to have three dance acts as headliners. Off the top of my head other types of bands that would be big enough to headline (and likely to appear) are Kasabian, Keane...actually screw that I can't think of anymore...

Edited February 15, 2010 by musiclove123

[LusciousLucy]

Whilst being a MASSIVE fan of the Hartnolls (so much so I cut my Australia trip off short just to come back and see them in June) I do somewhat agree with LaidBack there. The first show in Brighton was very much a 'meh' affair and the choice of tunes to play were pretty uninspiring considering the scale of the back catalogue and the chance to play tunes not played out in years. Instead the boys stuck quite a lot to the more crowd friendly tunes eg The Box, Dr Who etc which was disappointing. and annoying. The first gig did feel like a cash in and there was little to no audience reaction from Phil while he played.

I managed to catch them 3 times over the summer and thankfully the shows got better and better and depending what sort of audience you were in made a difference. And as someone who has seen them well over 30 times live since 95 it was possible to notice marked differences between the tweaks and the 'plinkyplonks' at each show which I really loved. Chime Crime was particularly splendid as was FINALLY hearing Lush after an absence of about 14 years since I last saw it live (cos the blinking boring Box and ever present Dr Who always get played instead!)

It would be really nice and a wonderful surprise if Phil and Paul drag out tunes like Choice and LC1 this coming summer cos another repeat of the same regular tunes not much different from the Final Set at Maida Vale just played in a different order IS getting tired and boring now.

It is only my undying love for these guys and wanting to hear how they have re-worked their tunes that will keep me seeing them over and over again despite being pissed off at the somewhat boringness of the sets these days. New stuff would be ace or a set of B-Sides and rare tracks would make me ruining my life by coming home early to see them and not returning to Oz worth it (well mostly).

[Guest musiclove123]

Can't see them playing w/o headlining the stage tbh - in '04 Muse were on the Pyramid at the same time so (assuming they play) perhaps history will repeat itself?

[LusciousLucy]

Why not? 2004:

Fri - Chemical Brothers

Sat - Basement Jaxx

Sun - Orbital

So... for 2010 just swap the Basement Jaxx for Faithless and we're onto a winner

[J1mbo]

Whilst being a MASSIVE fan of the Hartnolls (so much so I cut my Australia trip off short just to come back and see them in June) I do somewhat agree with LaidBack there. The first show in Brighton was very much a 'meh' affair and the choice of tunes to play were pretty uninspiring considering the scale of the back catalogue and the chance to play tunes not played out in years. Instead the boys stuck quite a lot to the more crowd friendly tunes eg The Box, Dr Who etc which was disappointing. and annoying. The first gig did feel like a cash in and there was little to no audience reaction from Phil while he played.

I managed to catch them 3 times over the summer and thankfully the shows got better and better and depending what sort of audience you were in made a difference. And as someone who has seen them well over 30 times live since 95 it was possible to notice marked differences between the tweaks and the 'plinkyplonks' at each show which I really loved. Chime Crime was particularly splendid as was FINALLY hearing Lush after an absence of about 14 years since I last saw it live (cos the blinking boring Box and ever present Dr Who always get played instead!)

It would be really nice and a wonderful surprise if Phil and Paul drag out tunes like Choice and LC1 this coming summer cos another repeat of the same regular tunes not much different from the Final Set at Maida Vale just played in a different order IS getting tired and boring now.

It is only my undying love for these guys and wanting to hear how they have re-worked their tunes that will keep me seeing them over and over again despite being pissed off at the somewhat boringness of the sets these days. New stuff would be ace or a set of B-Sides and rare tracks would make me ruining my life by coming home early to see them and not returning to Oz worth it (well mostly).

Edited February 15, 2010 by J1mbo

[laid back in the sun]

I can't form anything like a considered reply to this accurate description of orbital

Here's a suggestion : perhaps if you don't like Orbital (and lets face it - nobody really likes anything they've ever done bar two records) you might try and find another topic devoted to this real music stuff you rate so highly?

Perhaps start a your own thread entitled 'REAL music!!!' so you and your fellow musical purists can reassure each other of the 'subtle/intricate/complex' nature of the stuff the rest of us are just to undemanding to appreciate. It'll be fun! Like masturbating!

[J1mbo]

you're obviously an expert on orbital and masturbating then

[LusciousLucy]

I'd be carefull agreeing with Mr Back too much Lucy. After all, he thinks that the brothers P haven't done anything decent since the brown album. Of course if they actually play anything from that period they're simply living off past glories...

Edited February 15, 2010 by LusciousLucy

[0rbita1]

Tbh I needed a 6 year live break from them to recharge my 'please play Way Out or Midnight' battery. They never did

[J1mbo]

Trouble is, I hartilly agree with him.