Comparing positiion on different stages

[pink_triangle]

Obviously as you move to a smaller stage a band moves higher up the bil on that stage but how does positioning on different stages compare. In my opinion on average it is

Headling nme = 4th headline on main stage

Headlining lock up = 3rd headline on nme or 6th headliner main

Headlining fr = 5th headline nme or 7th headliner main

Is this about right??

[Im_in_a_tent]

imo

headine nme = 2/3rd on main

lock up = mid main

festival republic = mid to high nme

[flossy_]

pretty much right, cept there's always execeptions, e.g Lostprophets as NME headliner could of played 2nd on main stage (headliner may have pushed it slightly..) and Faith No More probably could of headlined

[pink_triangle]

pretty much right, cept there's always execeptions, e.g Lostprophets as NME headliner could of played 2nd on main stage (headliner may have pushed it slightly..) and Faith No More probably could of headlined

[Bradders]

There is absolutely no way Faith No More could headline. I couldn't tell you a FNM song and I've never heard anyone talk about them. To be honest I don't even know where I've heard the name...

[rivalschools.price]

There is absolutely no way Faith No More could headline. I couldn't tell you a FNM song and I've never heard anyone talk about them. To be honest I don't even know where I've heard the name...

[Bradders]

But I'm not most of the mainstream and I still don't know FNM. I could tell you loads of Pixies songs despite not really being a fan.

[SpiralD]

There is absolutely no way Faith No More could headline. I couldn't tell you a FNM song and I've never heard anyone talk about them. To be honest I don't even know where I've heard the name...

[rivalschools.price]

But I'm not most of the mainstream and I still don't know FNM. I could tell you loads of Pixies songs despite not really being a fan.

[rivalschools.price]

I agree.

When I heard they were likely for Leeds/Reading, my first reaction was "Who?"

So I asked around my friends, from metal heads to indie kids, and nobody had any idea who they were.

I also listened to some songs, and couldn't say I'd ever heard any of them at all, not even the odd occasion on the radio or music channels.

[pink_triangle]

what planet are you lot on??? i understand that they are not to everyones taste but ive got to wonder what kind of music fans/metal heads/indie kids youve been asking if 'nobody has any idea who they are'.i do admit they have got an 'alternative' sound and a lot of reading festival goers will hate them but let me assure u that they were a huge band before they split and this is a great booking for reading/leeds.

[Bradders]

Yeh but still not well known enough for people to get the name right

[rivalschools.price]

IM not dusputing they were a big band when they split but they were never big enough to headline reading/leeds festival in 2009. Compare them to rage, the ratm reunion had far more hype and interest than the faith no more reunion, killing in the name of is far better known than epic and ratm are more likley to be be played in an indi/rock club. It doesnt make fnm a small band just not one that would headline the festival. If they did it would probably be one of the smallest headline audience in the festivals history.

[thomasowen]

what planet are you lot on??? i understand that they are not to everyones taste but ive got to wonder what kind of music fans/metal heads/indie kids youve been asking if 'nobody has any idea who they are'.i do admit they have got an 'alternative' sound and a lot of reading festival goers will hate them but let me assure u that they were a huge band before they split and this is a great booking for reading/leeds.

[Lithium05]

I agree.

When I heard they were likely for Leeds/Reading, my first reaction was "Who?"

So I asked around my friends, from metal heads to indie kids, and nobody had any idea who they were.

I also listened to some songs, and couldn't say I'd ever heard any of them at all, not even the odd occasion on the radio or music channels.

[Lithium05]

I would say Epic is a much more well known song than anything by The Pixies, easily.

[robsadler]

Just out of interest, how old are you and the people you've been asking?

I've only recently got into FNM, but have known the songs "Epic", "Easy" and "We Care A Lot" for years!

I'm 24, and most of my friends could name "epic" at least!

It seems the confusion is mainly frokm the under 20s

Edited May 4, 2009 by robsadler

[fat_man_joe]

It is very hard to tell. Manics could have been second/ 3rd last year, where as the Cribs I doubt could have even pulled 4th on the Main Stage.

So you've given a good average.

Also I could see the FR headliner sometimes being 1st/ 2nd Main stage.

[JoShS]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/readingandleeds/2009/lineup/leeds.shtml

look at friendly fires, its either a mistake or their playing twice! plus 2nd nme? (atm) 6 main? (atm)

[VCK]

I don't know, surely FNM are maybe a slight bit less well-known than Pixies, Pearl Jam or Pumpkins?

That said, I reckon, with the exception of Pearl Jam, those bands could have headlined NME!

Edited May 4, 2009 by VCK

[rivalschools.price]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/readingandleeds/2009/lineup/leeds.shtml

look at friendly fires, its either a mistake or their playing twice! plus 2nd nme? (atm) 6 main? (atm)

[Bradders]

Just listened to Epic. I'm fairly sure I've never heard it before. The chorus sounds vaguely familiar but I think that's just because it sounds like another song. I can't remember the band but it was a bit of a comedy song about sex or something.

Edited May 4, 2009 by Bradders

[pink_triangle]

I don't know, surely FNM are maybe a slight bit less well-known than Pixies, Pearl Jam or Pumpkins?

That said, I reckon, with the exception of Pearl Jam, those bands could have headlined NME!

[thomasowen]

I would agree with that in my opinion though smashing pumpkins are at the same level as pearl jam in this county, it appeanred to me both drew similar size crowds at leeds which were both below an average headlining band at a festival. I would say both are however are of similar popularity in the uk meaning neither would headline the r1 tent.

As for pixies i would say they were slightly better known than fnm. I think they could headline nme tent but a few years ago i seemed to be really fashionable to liek the band which is why they headlined everywhere. I dont think faith no more are as fashioable as the pixies.

[rivalschools.price]

I agree, Pixies are more well known because they are named dropped by a lot of new acts and their albums are always in top 100 lists (but I still think Epic is more well known than any individual pixes song). FNM are about as unfashionable a band as its possible to get at Reading and Leeds.