Daily Star reports...

[thomasowen]

And I'd forgotten that London Calling was released in 1999.

[benisright]

In RHCP's case I dont see how you could argue differently. In terms of Lyrics it's an unquestionable step up, and they have become some of the best players in 'stadium music' again unquestionably. I dont see how my opinion of it being 'their most acomplished album' is 'comedy genius'. I didn't know I was that funny.

American Idiot was a massive departure from Greendays typical sound, and it was brilliantly recieved. Whilst I say its arguable to say its the best punk album since london's calling, I cant even think of a 21st century punk album that comes close.

[thomasowen]

I think both of those are ridiculous statements.

And thats unarguable on any forum related to reading.

[chubbz]

American Idiot isn't a punk rock album, it was a departure from punk for them.

[theramm]

I'd say 'And Out Come The Wolves' by Rancid is the best 'modern' punk album. I'd watch Greenday, Dookie & Nimrod are both good albums. 'Warning' however is straight shit.

[she bangs the drums]

The Stone Roses? Would Reading have them back after the debacle of 1996..?

[she bangs the drums]

I'd say 'And Out Come The Wolves' by Rancid is the best 'modern' punk album. I'd watch Greenday, Dookie & Nimrod are both good albums. 'Warning' however is straight shit.

[VCK]

It isn't going to happen but I think Ian Brown will be playing the NME tent this year along with the Happy Mondays.

[thejimbola]

The only thing more dull than the prospect of Stone Roses playing would be if Morrissey were to play as well.

Chili Peppers are past it but their older stuff was awesome.

Green Day are being criticised because they made an album that lots of people bought and loved, which means that they are now not cool with the people that do everything to be against what is popular.

Pearl Jam please :-)

[onthejazz]

<H4 style="MARGIN: 12pt 7.5pt">I would argue that....

Dead Kennedys

Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (1980)

Operation Ivy

Operation Ivy (1991) [Compilation]

Streetlight Manifesto

Everything Goes Numb (2003)

Propagandhi

Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (2001)

Leftöver Crack

f**k World Trade (2004)

Rancid

Let's Go (1994)

Against Me!

Reinventing Axl Rose (2002)

Minor Threat

Complete Discography (1989) [Compilation]

Rancid

...And Out Come the Wolves (1995)

The Exploited

Punks Not Dead (1981)

Misfits

Static Age (1997)

Bad Religion

Suffer (1988)

Rise Against

Revolutions Per Minute (2003)

....are all fantastic modern(ish) punk rock albums, and that American Idiot was departure from Greendays typical sound of punk rock.</H4>

Edited January 28, 2009 by onthejazz

[Mike Patton]

What I mean is that, the majority of people who go to Leeds and Reading, wouldn't appreciate the Stone Roses playing, as much as an older crowd, who grew up on listening to them would, i.e. people at V and Glastonbury. Don't get me wrong, I'm 20, and they are probably my favourite band of all time, and a lot of people my age and younger do like them, but I think V and Glasto, would be a much better place for them to play.

[Mike Patton]

Because suprisingly we believe Neil over you.

[VCK]

The only thing more dull than the prospect of Stone Roses playing would be if Morrissey were to play as well.

[Mike Patton]

No, I don't agree.

Kings of Leon certainly aren't pop, they are popular but there is a difference (and 2 or 3 of the songs on the new album are 'pop'.)

Kings of Leon were brought up on rubbish music and religious music, by their own acounts. Over the last few years they have basicly discovered music we take for granted and that has obviously altered their sound. I think their new album was great, although I am slightly baffled by their huge success.

I agree with you there on U2, Foo Fighters and Chris Cornell but disagree about Greenday and RHCP. American idiot was a triumph and arguably the greatest punk album since London's calling. Stadium Arcadium by the Chili Peppers was a little bland but easily their most acomplished album to date with both music and lyrics.

[VCK]

To be fair, as much as Foos have gone downhill they're still better than most shite that's being put out these days.

[Mike Patton]

Flea is easily one of the top 5 bass players in the world today, and Fruiscante is an amazing player (he often spends 18 hours a day playing). If it was such a rediculas statement then why are do they both apear in so many top 100 style lists? The world is a triangle, paper is made of water etc THESE are ridiculous statements.

I'm talking very specificly about their records.

Perhaps it was badly recived from closeminded fanboys but it got great reviews, and from publications that haven't rated their previous work. Mojo gave it 4, Kerrang 4, Rolling Stone 4, Ign 10 - some of these aren't publications you would assosiate with the punk genre. Its won grammys, brits etc and has sold over 15 million albums worldwide. If this is being recieved badly then I would love to know you definition of being recieved well.

I never compared them to the clash, I said it was the best (and easily most ambitious) punk album since London calling.

[Mike Patton]

To be fair, as much as Foos have gone downhill they're still better than most shite that's being put out these days.

[Mike Patton]

Couldn't agree more and I'm hoping that Rancid are headlining the lock up this year, there is a chance with them touring the U.S with Rise Against this summer.

[Mike Patton]

American Idiot isn't a punk rock album

[Mike Patton]

The only thing more dull than the prospect of Stone Roses playing would be if Morrissey were to play as well.

Chili Peppers are past it but their older stuff was awesome.

Green Day are being criticised because they made an album that lots of people bought and loved, which means that they are now not cool with the people that do everything to be against what is popular.

Pearl Jam please :-)

[Mike Patton]

I think both of those are ridiculous statements.

And thats unarguable on any forum related to reading.

The 2007 set by RHCP confirmed their demise as a live act after other poor performances.

American Idiot was one of the most poorly received albums. It sold records but was critically a flop in comparison to their earlier works. But even then, to compare anything Green Day have done to the Clash beggers belief.

[eFestivals]

Even though I was first with the news that the headliners were all signed and sealed while he was thinking that one had pulled out..?

except that your info is defo wrong.

Edited January 28, 2009 by eFestivals

[Mike Patton]

except that your info is defo wrong.

[eFestivals]

That's funny...it came out of Melvin Benn's mouth on Wednesday night last week...

In which case you'll have to learn to not believe all he tells you, cos my info is that that is not correct.

Call me wrong all you like. Only one of us has a very long record of getting these these things right.

Edited January 28, 2009 by eFestivals

[onthejazz]

In which case you'll have to learn to not believe all he tells you, cos my info is that that is not correct.

Call me wrong all you like. Only one of us has a very long record of getting these these things right.