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[steviewevie]

Watching Partygate, think it's actually pretty good...what a bunch of entitled c**ts with a massive entitled c**t at the top 

Edited October 5, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

14 minutes ago, Neil said:

Putin won't accept Russia's defeat in the field- that'll be nukes!

That's what he wants you to think

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

That's what he wants you to think

The button doesn’t exist does it ? Or in the hands of others ? 

[steviewevie]

 

[Crazyfool01]

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

A few on here have been saying similar for quite some time 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

A few on here have been saying similar for quite some time 

Well current strategy hasn't worked out too bad so far..but I guess now Sunak trying to be seen as the change choice and Starmer as the same old establishment type then thinking is he has to come out with some exciting new policies...which don't cost anything...

[Crazyfool01]

Now this is something sensible and popular I’d suggest 

 

[Ozanne]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Well current strategy hasn't worked out too bad so far..but I guess now Sunak trying to be seen as the change choice and Starmer as the same old establishment type then thinking is he has to come out with some exciting new policies...which don't cost anything...

Yes Labour have been consistently over 10 pints clear in the polls for a year now so they are clearly doing something right. Besides Labour have policies out there, it’s a lazy take to claim they don’t. 

[Neil]

22 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Now this is something sensible and popular I’d suggest 

 

labour will need to offer them better contracts than the ones from the last labour govt  which  have caused the nhs dentist crisis.

[gizmoman]

36 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Now this is something sensible and popular I’d suggest 

 

Well i was in my dentists today, the receptionist spent half her time answering the phone to people trying to get on the register for treatment, she said try again in 6 weeks, she has been saying this for years, there is clearly a real problem here, this could be a winner for labour if people trust them.

Edited October 5, 2023 by gizmoman
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[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

Well i was in my dentists today, the receptionist spent half her time answering the phone to people trying to get on the register for treatment, she said try again in 6 weeks, she has been saying this for years, there is clearly a real problem here, this could be a winner for labour if people trust them.

Yeah absolutely only 1 nhs dentist left in my town … fortunately it’s mine but that’ll likely change . And was similar to what you said the last time I was in there . Town fb group going mad about it 

[gizmoman]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Yeah absolutely only 1 nhs dentist left in my town … fortunately it’s mine but that’ll likely change . And was similar to what you said the last time I was in there . Town fb group going mad about it 

Only 1 NHS dentist in Taunton? Wow that really shows how bad this is, I'm in a large northern city and it has been a problem for many years, dare not miss a yearly check up in case I get struck off, I've been with this dentist 50 years!

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

Only 1 NHS dentist in Taunton? Wow that really shows how bad this is, I'm in a large northern city and it has been a problem for many years, dare not miss a yearly check up in case I get struck off, I've been with this dentist 50 years!

Yep correct … think more and more so a southern problem too now . A mate just managed to get one up north in Bradford . But this has significant impacts on nhs going forward if people put off the annual checks because of cost and then require emergency work 

[Neil]

52 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

Well i was in my dentists today, the receptionist spent half her time answering the phone to people trying to get on the register for treatment, she said try again in 6 weeks, she has been saying this for years, there is clearly a real problem here, this could be a winner for labour if people trust them.

its not so easy can't  magic the dentists into existence

[gizmoman]

34 minutes ago, Neil said:

its not so easy can't  magic the dentists into existence

So the problem is too many punters , not enough dentists, maybe we should cut back on immigration to reduce the demand? Or do you have a better solution?

[Neil]

1 minute ago, gizmoman said:

So the problem is too many punters , not enough dentists, maybe we should cut back on immigration to reduce the demand? Or do you have a better solution?

the problem is all the dentists who ditched the nhs cos of the new contracts labour introduced.

[Neil]

i'd guess most of those will have retired since so won't be coming back.

[Ozanne]

 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

 

the policies the country is crying out for!

[gizmoman]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

i'd guess most of those will have retired since so won't be coming back.

That was the question I was just about to pose, if they had gone private and taken the patients with them there would not have been the pressure on NHS dentists we currently see, I suspect some have retired but the fact is the UK population has increased by around 10% over the past 15 years, mainly due to immigration, this has had an effect on services such as dentistry, and to be fair to you, this is something you have commented on before, the fact is, with an aging population we need some immigration but the continuous increase in the population leads to pressure on all public services.

[Neil]

i think desistry is too far gone to be brought back. any new nhs dentist will get so swamped it won't be able to operate.

[Neil]

solid labour win in scotland today. 🙂 

[steviewevie]

5 hours ago, Neil said:

solid labour win in scotland today. 🙂 

wow, yes they have. That will give Labour a big boost about their chances in Scotland (although mustn't get complacent etc etc).

 

[steviewevie]

seismic seems to be the word.

[steviewevie]

8 hours ago, Ozanne said:

 

Sunak's approval ratings up slightly...he needs to distance himself from the loonies in the party, I wonder if he'll bin Braverman in a reshuffle?