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U.S. Presidential Election


FloorFiller

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Really hard to know what to believe with so much misinformation out there and bullshit pollsters trying to sway opinion in the lead up (and therefor laying the groundwork for it being ‘a fix’ if Trump loses) but the couple of people who I’ve found to be reasonably trustworthy seem to be reporting Dem turnout far surpassing Reps in the early voting in the swing states that matter. Dems usually outweigh Reps at this stage anyway, but it’s seemingly even moreso than it was in 2020. Echos of the red wave that never came in the ‘22 midterms. Here’s hoping. 

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11 hours ago, charlierc said:

Is Pennsylvania just the centre of the political universe for ridiculous stunts like this or Elon trying to buy Trump votes (legally or otherwise)?

It’s become the swing state that matters most in recent times given the large number of electoral votes that come with securing it (19). Basically, given the way the rest of the states usually swing, if you get Pennsylvania then you have a good chance of securing the election, hence why there’s been so much focus on it in the last month or so. 
 

Also seems to be the state that polling is showing could go to either candidate as it’s been pretty level pegging throughout, although think Kamala currently has the advantage in the weeks going in to the election. 

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

All this silly stuff that Trump does, the shocking weird stuff he says, the stunts...we all laugh at it, but it works. It makes the news, no one is listening to Harris because they're just gawping at Trump. The polls show it. Worked in 2016, working now.

It goes both ways really. A lot of people will see him doing an hour worth of ‘work’ at a closed McDonalds with the only customers being his hand picked fans as insulting, whereas I’m sure others will fall for it and think ‘he’s just like us!’.

 

Honestly, I don’t think it moves the needle at all. His fans love it, his detractors laugh at it, and undecideds go down the middle.

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17 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

A worryingly large portion of people are seemingly willing to overlook all of his shittiness, and in this case, his disdain for their race entirely, because he’s a man and Kamala is a woman and they don’t think a woman should be leading the country. 

I don't think it's so much a willingness to overlook it, just that they don't actually see it. Everything disagreeing with their candidate is either fake news or 'election interference'. 

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40 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

A worryingly large portion of people are seemingly willing to overlook all of his shittiness, and in this case, his disdain for their race entirely, because he’s a man and Kamala is a woman and they don’t think a woman should be leading the country. 

I expect middle east conflict is the main factor with Arab Americans.

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31 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

I know he’s more or less been saying this all along so it’s no surprise, but he really is just replaying 2020 all over again if he loses isn’t he? 

 

I mean, he's consistent in whinging that anything that produces a result other than him winning is fixed. Pretty sure he was doing this in 2016 before the election night surprise, and even then still spent much of the year or two after complaining about losing the popular vote.

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5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

2016

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I'm not sure this production proves Trump will win though. If anything, it kinda proves that US electoral polling is vulnerable to shifts in perceptions. 

 

Hell, the guessing game of this race has been maddening, not least as in the last two or three weeks, there's been articles where both parties have apparently had internal polling looking bad for them, which means one of them is wrong. Probably. Last week, there was even an article in Politico suggesting the Republicans are in trouble in several Senate races when re-taking the Senate from the Dems was a target for this cycle, which... f**k does that reveal in all this?

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