Long shot

[TheGreenDropsRule]

If you want to talk Eminem and festivals, perhaps use a festival that would book him rather than one that won't?

[TheGreenDropsRule]

Sorry I forgot

[dentalplan]

No it isnt. For instance there's plenty of discussion already about whether he is still big enough, how much he charges, whether he is morally right etc. Until the festival confirms, it remains a valid point (and even after because it could relate to a future year).

[eFestivals]

Because he didnt want to discuss Eminem and festivals, he wanted to discuss Eminem and Glastonbury. Unfortunately you and your merry band shouted him down, as you so often do.

I didn't shout anyone down. I just pointed out that the speculation is an utter waste of time, because it's not Eminem.

But hey, you just make it up. I know you wouldn't have it any other way.

Now, Bob The Builder. What stage is he playing?

Edited May 7, 2014 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

True but for some reason, those complaining about not being allowed to discuss don't seem to want to discuss that.

People are allowed to post whatever they wish, and that includes the people who reply.

Some people don't get that. Never mind.

[FrancisH]

but you don't seem to understand that in order to have a discussion you need to allow both positive and negative reactions / comments to what have been said - and so people saying 'nope it's Metallica' is just one side of that. would be a pretty shite thread if it was one or two people saying 'oh yeah it could be Eminem'...

...especially as it's definitely not Eminem

[eFestivals]

No one is surprised that some people have their own ideas. Those people with their own ideas are surprised to find people tell them they're wrong.

That's life today for you. There's a lot of people nowadays who seem to think that they can't be wrong, or at least that they should never be told that they are. Even when they are. Oh dear.

[Ziggy2412]

You speculated, you was told you was wrong....this is about as far the dicussion can go?

Unless you want us all to lie and say yes maybe?

[chestwig]

This thread is ridiculous. Your actually discussing whether you can have a discussion. HA HA! Total balls :-)

Edited May 7, 2014 by chestwig

[Bignews]

i think the fact that people are suggesting other headliners so frequently (more than ever) shows what they think of metallica, they are coming up with them more out of hope than expectation do yo not think?

[eFestivals]

If the speculation is a waste of time, let it be a waste of his time.

that's fine. I've no idea why you think it's not.

Also 'fine' is them being told they're wasting their time. Then they have the knowledge to decide if they wish to continue to waste their time or not.

People are just as entitled to put people right as people are entitled to speculate.

Why some people find that so very hard to understand I'll never know, but they clearly don't like being wrong and put right about being wrong.

[FrancisH]

That's life today for you. There's a lot of people nowadays who seem to think that they can't be wrong, or at least that they should never be told that they are. Even when they are. Oh dear.

I think you're missing my point... Feel free to tell people they're wrong, everyone should have an opinion and express it, just don't be an arse about it! (not referencing you specifically, but other people on other threads react in quite a hostile way when people suggest it might not be Metallica)

[eFestivals]

I think you're missing my point... Feel free to tell people they're wrong, everyone should have an opinion and express it, just don't be an arse about it! (not referencing you specifically, but other people on other threads react in quite a hostile way when people suggest it might not be Metallica)

yeah, because that "arsey" is of course nothing to do with the attitudes of the people who are wrong not liking being told they're wrong.

If you're happy for people to roll in their own shit, you need to find another website.

We do honesty here, we don't invent pink fluffy kittens.

Edited May 7, 2014 by eFestivals

[FrancisH]

yeah, because that "arsey" is of course nothing to do with the attitudes of the people who are wrong not liking being told they're wrong.

If you're happy for people to roll in their own shit, you need to find another website.

We do honesty here, we don't invent pink fluffy kittens.

[chestwig]

that's fine. I've no idea why you think it's not.

Also 'fine' is them being told they're wasting their time. Then they have the knowledge to decide if they wish to continue to waste their time or not.

People are just as entitled to put people right as people are entitled to speculate.

Why some people find that so very hard to understand I'll never know, but they clearly don't like being wrong and put right about being wrong.

[Ziggy2412]

yeah, because that "arsey" is of course nothing to do with the attitudes of the people who are wrong not liking being told they're wrong.

If you're happy for people to roll in their own shit, you need to find another website.

We do honesty here, we don't invent pink fluffy kittens.

[Ziggy2412]

Your wasting your own time in continuing this pointless debate though surely? I'm wasting my time in contributing.... Other people are wasting there time reading. Great we are all wasting time.

Can't we all just get to Glastonbury and waste some time having a wicked time?? YES PLEASE!! :-)

[mattgimmeshelter]

I don't see why I'm getting backlash for pointing out that discussing a "long shot" or a possibility is useless, because the saturday night headliner is booked

and it's metallica

If the roles were reversed you'd come down on me like a tonne of bricks

we get it, you're not into metal and you want prince... but it's not happening.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

"Oh, dear God. Can't this town go one day without a riot"

[eFestivals]

Ahhh come on, trying to send people away to other forums because they don't agree with the leader .

you can't please all of the people all of the time, so I don't try. If you want the false smarmy pink fluffy kittens thing plenty of other places are available.

But seriously, I believe it's Metallica too, almost definitely... I just think it's a bit hostile to say things to others like 'How many times do you need to be told' Etc. No big deal.

Someone is posting here, expecting others here to read their words.

It's a pretty fair assumption to think they've been reading other's words, don't you think?

The alternative would be to assume that they've read nothing here, but they feel important enough that everyone else would want to read them. Which would make them an arse.

And so, that fair assumption gets to mean that what you think "a bit hostile" is really only fair comment.

For it to be hostile, that person would have to be an arse.

[eFestivals]

So confused. I certainly don't think I've been arsey in any way - simply pointed out that the guy that started this thread has a right to speculate if he so wishes.

*exactly* the same right as others have to tell him his speculation s pointless.

What more of any sense is there to discuss?

[waynewdk]

I dont think its Eminem either but its nice to speculate and get excited with theories.And odd coincedences( spelt right?)

I think there is attitude from some people. If i had the info on Metallica headlining. My reply might be something like " Get where your coming , but got it on good authority that its Metallica, but keep speculating." but no..Some people are stuck up there own arse

[UEF]

I'd love to see Eminem play, partly as he's a great musician and partly to see the self-proclaimed "judges of all that is and isn't in the true Glastonbury spirit" explode.

[grandadcollective]

it's a small number of changes.Why do you think Metallica are going to pull out?And if they do pull out, who do you think the festival might put in their place at short notice?

[eFestivals]

They have signed contracts? You know this? What is the reason for delayed confirmation?

yes; yes; another contract.