rejected registration

[russycarps]

Apart from the second Glastonbury when it was completely free, people have always been excluded, ignoring the thousands that got in for free, and which undoubtedly included punters who didn't make the festival particularly great.. the thieving for example.

I'm as disorganised as anyone, I'm just reasonable at prioritising. You don't have to be that computer literate either. You'd be complaining that needing a phone disadvantaged people if that was the only way to get tickets

What's having a desk job got to do with anything?

How this started was someone asking if there was a chance of Glastonbury letting a lone punter register after the closing date because they cocked theirs up and left it to the last minute. Some people suggested maybe that person wasn't that bothered in the first place. I don't see what's wrong here.

[mrtourette]

Maybe. Probably even. But you dont know that for sure do you.

Yet you still typed this:

"Ah, the first of many 'my friend didn't follow the rules because he's a fucking lazy idiot, how can I get around it so he's got the same chance as the people who did get off their arse and follow the rules?' threads."

Looks like you've made a few assumptions of your own there. Only your assumptions were rude and insulting.

Edited October 2, 2013 by mrtourette

[LondonTom]

It is what it is, I agree.

But being highly organised and computer literate does not make you more deserving of attending the festival than someone who lives a life of chaos.

That's how this all started. People crowing at someone else just because they've got a shitty little deskjob that makes it easy for them.

[fred quimby]

mentioning my race when I have never ever mentioned my ethnicity on this forum.

Interesting. Why did you do that?

[UEF]

Contrary to the postulations of bonkers conspiracists and armchair revolutionaries on here, there exist some simple and straightforward rules in life as in Glastonbury to make the process of shifting 170,000 punters, the festival itself and everything else around with the minimum of fuss, rather than to somehow keep an eye on you.

Glastonbury captures your information in photo, name and address form. Why? So big brother can spy on you? Not really. People used to complain about touts reselling tickets. So Glasto found a fairly straightforward and cost effective way to stop this. Sure, a small amount of touting goes on, but nothing like what you'd see for other festivals or gig tickets. Why do we capture peoples info? To easily make a rough demarcation of what constitutes a 'unique user'. It's not a perfect system, it's a blunt instrument that gets rid of MOST (not all) problems to do with touting.

So naturally, these photos have to be vetted to make sure that it is indeed a picture of a person and is reasonably clear. This can't easily be done by computers (though Facebook have made great strides into this, though of course have been accused by the aforementioned of being conspirators in an orwellian plot to find out what you buy from Tesco).

It wouldn't be reasonable to have people registering (and needing to go through this vetting process) up to and after the point where tickets go on sale, in fact the aforementioned bonkers conspiracists would probably complain that they were being hard done by if this were so. So the registration site closes earlier than the sale, so that registrations can still be checked in time. It would make sense therefore that, if you don't read the simple guidelines (RULES!, as Russy would say) on how to submit a photo, you may fail this and not have enough time to sort out another registration.

There's no advantage to registering late - at all. It's not like settling your deposit, where you might want to wait until after you get paid for example. So If, after all that, you don't manage to get registered, then you probably don't really want to go anyway.

Edited October 2, 2013 by UEF

[russycarps]

Contrary to the postulations of bonkers conspiracists and armchair revolutionaries on here, there exist some simple and straightforward rules in life as in Glastonbury to make the process of shifting 170,000 punters, the festival itself and everything else around with the minimum of fuss, rather than to somehow keep an eye on you.

Glastonbury captures your information in photo, name and address form. Why? So big brother can spy on you? Not really. People used to complain about touts reselling tickets. So Glasto found a fairly straightforward and cost effective way to stop this. Sure, a small amount of touting goes on, but nothing like what you'd see for other festivals or gig tickets. Why do we capture peoples info? To easily make a rough demarcation of what constitutes a 'unique user'. It's not a perfect system, it's a blunt instrument that gets rid of MOST (not all) problems to do with touting.

So naturally, these photos have to be vetted to make sure that it is indeed a picture of a person and is reasonably clear. This can't easily be done by computers (though Facebook have made great strides into this, though of course have been accused by the aforementioned of being conspirators in an orwellian plot to find out what you buy from Tesco).

It wouldn't be reasonable to have people registering (and needing to go through this vetting process) up to and after the point where tickets go on sale, in fact the aforementioned bonkers conspiracists would probably complain that they were being hard done by if this were so. So the registration site closes earlier than the sale, so that registrations can still be checked in time. It would make sense therefore that, if you don't read the simple guidelines (RULES!, as Russy would say) on how to submit a photo, you may fail this and not have enough time to sort out another registration.

There's no advantage to registering late - at all. It's not like settling your deposit, where you might want to wait until after you get paid for example. So If, after all that, you don't manage to get registered, then you probably don't really want to go anyway.

[UEF]

It amuses me that even after all of the recent revelations with GCHQ/Prism etc it is beyond your comprehension that all the data we input when registering is shared with the authorities.

[russycarps]

Do you believe the data you share with efestivals (and you do) is shared with the authorities?

[UEF]

shared how? it's a public forum.

[russycarps]

Your email address, your IP address (and rough location), your password, browser, operating system... all of this will be captured in a way by this site and most others you use.

[UEF]

so are you asking do I think neil is contacted by the authorities and asked for this information on all the users of this website?

[Guest]

so are you asking do I think neil is contacted by the authorities and asked for this information on all the users of this website?

[russycarps]

If the hat fits, sure. That's what you seem to be inferring about Glastonbury.

[russycarps]

if 'they' wanted the information, they probably wouldn't have, or need, to ask Neil.

[UEF]

indeed. And why would they want it anyway? I hardly think this forum is considered populated by any individuals that would be of any interest

[russycarps]

Case rests m'lud.

[Guest]

indeed. And why would they want it anyway? I hardly think this forum is considered populated by any individuals that would be of any interest

[mrtourette]

I dunno, there's probably more radical thinking non-conformists* on these forums than in the million people who registered for Glastonbury.

[russycarps]

and Glastonbury registration is?

[Guest]

Glastonbury is still viewed as an "alternative" event. And certainly was 10 years ago when registration started.

You think the police arent still scanning the database each year on the offchance of getting their hands on some "undesirables"?

[LondonTom]

You think the police arent still scanning the database each year on the offchance of getting their hands on some "undesirables"?

[russycarps]

I have no idea. I'm of the mind that as soon as you register with anything on the internet you're opening up yourself to someone, somewhere, snooping on you. If I wasn't happy with that, I shouldn't register anything on the web.

I think it happens anyway... as soon as your born.

[russycarps]

I think that the police might just might have access to better databases than a system which asks for no proof of the details you are submitting for yourself (apart from the phone if you want to get in...).

[mrtourette]

really? what other databases would some of the people that used to attend glastonbury that the police might be interested in sign up to?

I cant think of any.

[fred quimby]

really? what other databases would some of the people that used to attend glastonbury that the police might be interested in sign up to?

I cant think of any.

Edited October 2, 2013 by fred quimby