Glastonbury alcohol email?

[eFestivals]

What on earth are you babbling on about?

I said I am Libertarian- I believe in the freedom of the individual.

You claim this ensures we disagree on everthing.

Ergo you presumably are in favour of a Totalitarian state.

You encourage an increase in State power and the nanny state.

You are in favour of more rules/regulations.

I am in favour of rules and regulations targeted at the right places. As you're getting to show there's a HUGE need for rules requiring politiocal education to replace ridiculous self-serving false ideas.

I am not in favour of rules that allow people to exploit others while allowing those exploiters to laughingly think of themselves as libertarians.

Libertarians want rules no differently to anyone else, it's merely that they want rules that free themselves from restrictions to allow them to enslave others.

[siblin]

.....UKIP Mexican Drug Nannies.

[mrtourette]

I kinda understand ME's point of view. He busts a gut for a year laying on some of the finest entertainment the world has to offer, and all people are interested in is getting so off their faces that they don't remember anything. It does make me wonder why some people bother to buy a ticket...

Edited June 14, 2013 by mrtourette

[Teddington]

I am in favour of rules and regulations targeted at the right places. As you're getting to show there's a HUGE need for rules requiring politiocal education to replace ridiculous self-serving false ideas.

I am not in favour of rules that allow people to exploit others while allowing those exploiters to laughingly think of themselves as libertarians.

Libertarians want rules no differently to anyone else, it's merely that they want rules that free themselves from restrictions to allow them to enslave others.

[siblin]

No because most Libertarians believe in a moral code that often prevents this.

Consequential Libertarians believe it is not always wrong to shoot someone though. e.g. if said person is holding a knife to an innocents throat, has explosives strapped to them in a shopping centre etc etc

[ICGenie]

Same reason teenagers buy tickets to R&L just to get fucked up on ketamine and lie around all weekend, because they can't do it in the 'real world'.

[Teddington]

damned mexican drug nannies. Stealing our jobs.. poisoning our children!

[Teddington]

So what you're saying is exactly my point. That what the meaning of the word is is entirely your interpretation, and its possible to have opinions on personal liberty which entirely clash with someone elses view which has the same label.

[Teddington]

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That's bollocks though isn't it? You can pitch up a tent in a quiet field and get fucked up and lie around all weekend and it won't cost you £200 for a ticket. Each to their own and all that but I just don't see the point.

[mrtourette]

Yeah the other thing is just to say you've been. "I went to Glasto and did loads of shit I couldn't get away with at home", it's a very appealing situation to people especially if £200 is easily affordable.

Edited June 14, 2013 by mrtourette

[siblin]

Nevertheless a very valid point.

Illegal drugs fund crime. End of.

Anyone taking illegal drugs is funding crime and all that comes along with it, including violence and murder.

From those "magic pills" to the seeds that grow cannabis, 99% of illegal drugs fund crime.

[eFestivals]

I suggest you read up on the subject, then come back when you know what you are talking about.

or perhaps you read something which doesn't pander to your prejudices?

Are their rules that protect the property that you wish to acquire via the exploiting of others you wish to do, or not?

Funnily enough, I reckon they're a set of rules that you think should exist and that your libertarian views don't even accept as being rules in the first place.

But rules they are, and rules that work to your advantage. So they're rules you're quite happy with.

Now, tell me again how you're fully against state interference.

[Teddington]

No point was made.

and can you back up that statistic? and you could argue that all illegal drugs fund crime, because they're illegal!

Presume you'd be in favour of decriminalisation then, solve the problem? in fact, decriminalise everything, and you wont have any crime! problem solved.

[eFestivals]

No because most Libertarians believe in a moral code that often prevents this.

libertarians have a moral code? PMSL. ;lol:

The "moral code" of libertarians has just three words: me me me.

[monkey1989]

well I hope you guys made the most of the old days of glasto

[eFestivals]

Illegal drugs fund crime. End of.

Is there a world beyond the end of your nose? I suggest that you look for it.

In prohibition America, alcohol funds crime. End of.

[siblin]

I am in favour of decriminalisation for some drugs. Cannabis should be legalised and taxed imo. Ketamine........maybe not.

[eFestivals]

Of course, because personal liberty is just that! The fact that different views are welcomed and discussed is at it's very heart.

Great - I'll look forward to welcoming the view that all property is theft.

[Teddington]

or perhaps you read something which doesn't pander to your prejudices?

Are their rules that protect the property that you wish to acquire via the exploiting of others you wish to do, or not?

Funnily enough, I reckon they're a set of rules that you think should exist and that your libertarian views don't even accept as being rules in the first place.

But rules they are, and rules that work to your advantage. So they're rules you're quite happy with.

Now, tell me again how you're fully against state interference.

[eFestivals]

The tax system funds crime. I wonder why they've not made tax illegal on the same logical basis as Teddington has given for drugs?

[Teddington]

Is there a world beyond the end of your nose? I suggest that you look for it.

In prohibition America, alcohol funds crime. End of.

[Teddington]

The tax system funds crime. I wonder why they've not made tax illegal on the same logical basis as Teddington has given for drugs?

[eFestivals]

So if cannabis was legalised there would be no suffering because of it?

the only suffering I've been caused by cannabis is financial suffering.

I might still have financial sufferings if it were legal, but not as much.

[jeffie]

well I hope you guys made the most of the old days of glasto

[Teddington]

So if cannabis was legalised there would be no suffering because of it? Coca-cola is legal, but it doesnt mean a lot of people havent suffered in the production of it.