£200 barrier breached

[mrtourette]

Of course it's not unworkable.

If it's unworkable, how do they manage to make it work at (picking some examples at random) Sadler's Wells? Or the Royal Court?

[MEGABOWL]

How on earth would you means test people? Also what's to stop a non working partner of a top earner applying? Completely unworkable.

[abdoujaparov]

How do they make it work there?

[Filthy]

Of course it's not unworkable.

If it's unworkable, how do they manage to make it work at (picking some examples at random) Sadler's Wells? Or the Royal Court?

[Rufus Gwertigan]

When did the Glastonbury 'ethos' become established? Was it ever a declared one?

The way I heard it, ME went to the Bath Festival, saw Led Zeppelin and decided he'd like to give it a go himself... and that's it

[mrtourette]

you turn up at the box office, or book on line, and present the evidence they ask for to demonstrate that you are unwaged (proof that you're a student, in receipt of JSA or whatever it might be). It's not complicated - theatres etc have been doing it for decades....

[abdoujaparov]

Perhaps because they don't have an audience of 150,000, the admin alone would take money away from good causes and there would definitely be loopholes to exploit. I also agree with the above that a £20-£30 discount is not going to be enough of an incentive for an unemployed person to change their mind.

[abdoujaparov]

. How would you prove that you are unwaged and deserving rather than unwaged and abusing the system? And how do you define 'deserving', is it simply that you are unwaged?

[pouxin]

Luckily, though, it's possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time

Edited October 9, 2012 by pouxin

[mrtourette]

or the Daily Mail brigade who want the unemployed to sit in a dark room and never smile....

[mrtourette]

I'm not sure I really care, to be honest. If you can demonstrate that you are unwaged that would be good enough for me. It's a festival we're talking about, not access to social housing or something important....

[jimmyk83]

This is a discussion forum

[jimmyk83]

It's a festival we're talking about, not access to social housing or something important....

[abdoujaparov]

I don't think that anyone's said that, and taking an objection to the idea or a doubting that it would work to that extreme is a bit naughty.

[whisty]

Load of old tosh. There's 30k + workers in various shapes and forms (paid/unpaid). Anybody can get to this festival if they really want to. It's open to all.

[abdoujaparov]

Well that's fair enough I guess, maybe some of us are going to deep into how it would work and we should all agree that it would be nice without really worrying if and how it would work.

[mrtourette]

And what sacrifices have to be made to cover the costs of making it work.

[abdoujaparov]

And what sacrifices have to be made to cover the costs of making it work.

[markm69]

200 nicker is around double the amount what you'd pay for a week camping elsewhere.

And that 'double the amount' is covered by the experience and sheer amount of groups

you can see play.

It really isn't too much to pay is it?

Big Chill was around 160, Hop Farm 180, and so on.

This is longer, bigger, and the quality and quantity of music is better. imho.

[Jie Bie]

Well, yes they do actually...unlike Glastonbury, Sadlers Wells is open virtually every night of the year.

Yes, there would be loopholes, but in the scheme of things is that important?

My argument isnt that there should be a 30 quid discount for the unwaged. My beef is with those who say either that it is too difficult to organise (it demonstrably isnt) or the Daily Mail brigade who want the unemployed to sit in a dark room and never smile....

[jimmyk83]

Not to mention that the increase in regular ticket costs would price out some people on low incomes, who don't qualify for the discount

[mrtourette]

I just think it's pointless saying that it doesn't matter if the system is abused or that you don't care if there are loopholes. It just smacks of a bunch of chin-strokers sitting around and congratulating each other for being decent human beings and showing compassion when in reality the system potentially gives very little benefit to the 'deserving' and 'needy'. It's almost as if the ability to say that Glastonbury does this and the sense of satisfaction that comes along with it is more important than whether it actually helps the people that it's supposed to.

[MEGABOWL]

Not to mention that the increase in regular ticket costs would price out some people on low incomes, who don't qualify for the discount

[MEGABOWL]

I just think it's pointless saying that it doesn't matter if the system is abused or that you don't care if there are loopholes. It just smacks of a bunch of chin-strokers sitting around and congratulating each other for being decent human beings and showing compassion when in reality the system potentially gives very little benefit to the 'deserving' and 'needy'. It's almost as if the ability to say that Glastonbury does this and the sense of satisfaction that comes along with it is more important than whether it actually helps the people that it's supposed to.

[abdoujaparov]

The point I've been making is this - if someone can afford to attend Glastonbury for £185+travel+all other costs then they can almost certainly afford to attend at the standard ticket price. It's a gesture, nothing more.