oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) I can't watch it but i picked this bit out of the live news feed I like this attitude, not sure how it will go down with voters in general and nnot sure it will win over any tory voters, but i like it. Edited September 28, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraz Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yes I quite like him now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 He's just said that Iraq was a mistake, and that the blockade on Gaza needs to be lifted. That's Oaf lost again then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 He's just said that Iraq was a mistake, and that the blockade on Gaza needs to be lifted. That's Oaf lost again then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Torys going to lose on AV... Labour supporting the Libs it seems on the issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Nothing issues to be frank... More concerned about schools, jobs, NHS etc to be quite frank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Would you prefer if we just called you .... frank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 It's a carefully crafted speech given by a trained politician. It doesn't actually mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 It's a carefully crafted speech given by a trained politician. It doesn't actually mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) thing I liked most... He didn't just stick it to Brown and Blair... Which would of been wrong and out of order... They got so much right under new Labour... but he did point out some of the wrongs... I am quite impressed personally... Edited September 28, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm fairly sure the KOL are playing in the background of the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Its getting ripped apart on the BBC... Saying it was pretty much a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed209 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I thought it was a very impressive start. But then again everyone likes the new guy. If DM had been up there I personally would have been a lot less receptive to him as he wreaks of the Brown era. The change is refreshing. I can see him winning a lot of disillusioned Libem voters. It was a very easy speech for him to give though. Be interesting to see how he can handle trade union conferences and the dispatch box at PMQs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflebutt Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) I got the impression he was beginning the process of distancing himself from much of what he was saying during his leadership campaign - a necessary step if he wants to get Labour elected in 2015. Yes he mentioned the fair wage, but he paid tribute to Blair and Brown, guaranteed he wouldnt oppose every cut the tories make and IIRC he warned the unions he would only support them if he felt they were right. I knew he wouldnt go to an electorate making the centrepiece of his manifesto a 'fair wage' - it would be electoral suicide. But I'm surprised just how quickly he has changed his tune, or rather the tone of his message. He was never likely to be the new Michael Foot, lets face it. If I was a Labour supporter, I think i might be happier now than i was this morning. Edited September 28, 2010 by Snufflebutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I got the impression he was beginning the process of distancing himself from much of what he was saying during his leadership campaign - a necessary step if he wants to get Labour elected in 2015. Yes he mentioned the fair wage, but he paid tribute to Blair and Brown, guaranteed he wouldnt oppose every cut the tories make and IIRC he warned the unions he would only support them if he felt they were right. I knew he wouldnt go to an electorate making the centrepiece of his manifesto a 'fair wage' - it would be electoral suicide. But I'm surprised just how quickly he has changed his tune, or rather the tone of his message. He was never likely to be the new Michael Foot, lets face it. If I was a Labour supporter, I think i might be happier now than i was this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraz Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 He's a much better speaker than Cameron and Clegg based on that, especially towards the end of this one. Lot less mechanical. Good use of themes with a lot of soundbites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkShow Bob Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I kind of got the feeling that the fair or living wage was quite central to his benefits both during the leadership debates and more importantly today... If he does actually end up taking it to the people is another thing but I didn't think it had been killed off in todays speech... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Put on by the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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