This new layout sucks

[sheep21]

meh, s'only another change on top of any many before, y'all get used to it. Ads are abit in ya face but thats life.

[ampersand]

meh, s'only another change on top of any many before, y'all get used to it. Ads are abit in ya face but thats life.

[philipsteak]

i'm just using bog standard internet explorer at work, with no ad block or similar, and i can't see any. weird that...

[ampersand]

I come on here from 3 different computers, 2 using Firefox, 1 explorer, as far as i'm aware no adblock, and i haven't seen an ad since the upgrade

[dakyras]

This is how terrible it looks on Safari.

[eFestivals]

I'm using a Sony ericsson W995 and the writing is in columns and hard to read. I'm pretty sure on Android phones, iPhones etc it's probably fine.

Just wondering what the new format will change if anything.

I'm pretty sure that it's not pretty on iPhones - yet another thing (their browser implementation) they've done worse on that phone than is the case for other phones.

Anyway, the changed format - which I'd hoped would be live by now but isn't - will address the issue you're having, to some extent if not perfectly.

On top of that there'll be a mobile skin at some point soon - there's issues with it currently which I'm trying to get sorted, but which is needing support from the software makers and they're not acting as fast as I'd like them to be doing.

A tweak has been made this morning which should help speed the server up a little, and another tweak that will speed things up still further will be activated very shortly. However, the current speed issue is more to do with the number of website visitors at the moment than the forums upgrade.

[eFestivals]

This is how terrible it looks on Safari.

It would look less terrible if full-screen - the skin (including the amended one coming soon) is designed to be used with enough space for it.

Anyway, the amended skin is just about ready, and will be installed in the next few hours. This is get rid of many of the skin related issues, including at least some of what you're suffering from.

[eFestivals]

A tweak has been made this morning which should help speed the server up a little, and another tweak that will speed things up still further will be activated very shortly. However, the current speed issue is more to do with the number of website visitors at the moment than the forums upgrade.

this second tweak has now been activated, and appears to be making a visible difference (tho it's hard to be 100% sure, as he difference might be due to people clicking less or clicking on less intensive things at this moment).

[ralph250]

Hey Neil, javascript errors back last night; 16 per page.

Don't seem to get them during the day, just evenings.

[eFestivals]

Hey Neil, javascript errors back last night; 16 per page.

Don't seem to get them during the day, just evenings.

Are you using the same computer and browser in the evenings to what you use in the daytimes?

I'm trying to work out why they happen sometimes and not others.

[ralph250]

Are you using the same computer and browser in the evenings to what you use in the daytimes?

I'm trying to work out why they happen sometimes and not others.

[eFestivals]

Yeah, same computer. Windows 7 64 bit, either IE8 or Mozilla 3.6.3. I use both really, but would guess was probably using IE last night. Java updated reasonably recently; 6 Update 20 (1.6.0_20-b02).

Was just evening last night and the night before. During the day was fine.

The on-screen error msg's only happen with IE. So I need to know if the sometimes is due to you switching browsers?

(FYI: Java is nothing to do with Javascript - they're completely different and separate things with no relationship between them, outside of the similar names).

[sifi]

People moaning about JavaScript errors is one thing. Ungrateful urchins moaning about the layout of something they don't pay for is of course something else. Especially when what they are moaning about actually means they don't have to pay for it.

[ralph250]

The on-screen error msg's only happen with IE. So I need to know if the sometimes is due to you switching browsers?

[Paul ™]

People moaning about JavaScript errors is one thing. Ungrateful urchins moaning about the layout of something they don't pay for is of course something else. Especially when what they are moaning about actually means they don't have to pay for it.

Edited June 18, 2010 by Paul ™

[Langdale Wolf]

I gave you some reputation for that post

Agree 100% with it, if they ain't happy they should piss off to other forums

[Paul ™]

Yeah noticed too and posted in the issues thread in website wishlist bit.

Though the forum does seem more aligned to the left of the page which has probably caused this and now Neil will be tearing his hair out as this is probably the modified skin he was about to install

[eFestivals]

yep, I'm aware of it, and trying to get it sorted.

Outside of that small problem with huge difficulty to track down to fix, this amended skin is looking good.

You'll probably all disagree again tho when the near-square ads re-appear.

[Kowalski]

People moaning about JavaScript errors is one thing. Ungrateful urchins moaning about the layout of something they don't pay for is of course something else. Especially when what they are moaning about actually means they don't have to pay for it.

[smog]

Ive had no errors using multiple computers. Also keep checking across multiple browsers as I use different ones at work to check my own code. That said huge improvement in the layout today with the rejigging of the ads to the right.

[eFestivals]

What about those that pay for it through the purchase of merchandise and subscriptions?

[/Devil's advocate]

Well, only one person has taken up the ad-free subscription since things changed, so that's not really in the running.

And the purchasing of merchandise this year has been very minimal, and the profit for efests from them anyway is almost non-existent.

So play devil's advocate all you like, but it's near enough irrelevant.

[eFestivals]

You'll probably all disagree again tho when the near-square ads re-appear.

so go on then, give us yer moans....

[Paul ™]

Bloody ads taking over the place.. its just not what it used to be.. next you will be wanting us to pay money for t-shirts and ad free forums

[eFestivals]

are ads meant to be popping up inbetween posts

Yep. The ads are needed so that these forums pay for themselves.

I've listened to the moans about those ads being on the right for the last week, and concluded that how things are now is a better solution.

I hope that people will agree.

there's still the leftness effecting people's PM, friend icons etc.

eh? Are you meaning the icons in a posters profile next to their posts intruding into the post?

Or what are you meaning? Can you please explain in detail?

It would help if you also told me what browser and version you're using, and on what operating system & version.

[eFestivals]

Yep, a few people in this thread have noticed the leftness.

I don't understand what you're meaning - please elaborate.