Walking times between stages

[TheAmalfiGlow]

Trying to get an idea of walking time between stages, to help fathom out the best itinerary - working in league with the trusty Clashfinder

Completely ignoring bottlenecks (a la Travis Pyramid 2000), munchie diversions & random sideshows along the way - what do you reckon is the the shanks' pony timescale for the following?

• PYRAMID - OTHER

  PYRAMID - JOHN PEEL

  PYRAMID - JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS

  PYRAMID - THE PARK

  PYRAMID - DANCE VILLAGE

  PYRAMID - THE GLADE

  PYRAMID - ACOUSTIC

  PYRAMID - AVALON

  PYRAMID - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  PYRAMID - STONE CIRCLE

  PYRAMID - ATM

  OTHER - JOHN PEEL

  OTHER - JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS

  OTHER - THE PARK

  OTHER - DANCE VILLAGE

  OTHER - THE GLADE

  OTHER - ACOUSTIC

  OTHER - AVALON

  OTHER - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  OTHER - STONE CIRCLE

  OTHER - ATM

  JOHN PEEL - JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS

  JOHN PEEL - THE PARK

  JOHN PEEL - DANCE VILLAGE

  JOHN PEEL - THE GLADE

  JOHN PEEL - ACOUSTIC

  JOHN PEEL - AVALON

  JOHN PEEL - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  JOHN PEEL - STONE CIRCLE

  JOHN PEEL - ATM

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - THE PARK

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - DANCE VILLAGE

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - THE GLADE

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - ACOUSTIC

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - AVALON

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - STONE CIRCLE

  JAZZ WORLD/WEST HOLTS - ATM

  THE PARK - DANCE VILLAGE

  THE PARK - THE GLADE

  THE PARK - ACOUSTIC

  THE PARK - AVALON

  THE PARK - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  THE PARK - STONE CIRCLE

  THE PARK - ATM

  DANCE VILLAGE - THE GLADE

  DANCE VILLAGE - ACOUSTIC

  DANCE VILLAGE - AVALON

  DANCE VILLAGE - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  DANCE VILLAGE - STONE CIRCLE

  DANCE VILLAGE - ATM

  THE GLADE - ACOUSTIC

  THE GLADE - AVALON

  THE GLADE - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  THE GLADE - STONE CIRCLE

  THE GLADE - ATM

  ACOUSTIC - AVALON

  ACOUSTIC - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  ACOUSTIC - STONE CIRCLE

  ACOUSTIC - ATM

  AVALON - SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA

  AVALON - STONE CIRCLE

  AVALON - ATM

  SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA - STONE CIRCLE

  SHANGRI LA/ARCADIA - ATM

  STONE CIRCLE - ATM

What do you mean "I should be working?"

[Langdale Wolf]

You'll need two lists.

Sober walking time and f**ked off your face walking time.

They are very, very different.

[BrotherEsau]

You'll need 4 lists.

Sober - dry ground

Sober - muddy

Drunk - dry ground

Drunk - muddy

HTH

Esau

[Langdale Wolf]

And also - crowds.

It'll take 4 times as long to get between the 2 main stages before/after a headline act than it will wandering around the site on the Wednesday/Thursday.

Trust me. I'm a scheduler by profession.

[Steve P]

No more than 5 minutes between any of them if you ride the monorail

[Langdale Wolf]

No more than 5 minutes between any of them if you ride the monorail

[Steve P]

Didn't we agree that anyone mentioned the 'M' word gets an automatic week long ban?

C'mon Steve - that's sooooooo 2008.

[caramello]

15-25 mins anywhere to anywhere if you dont bimble and dont look at anything

20-40 mins if you bimble a bit drunkenly

45+ mins for a little bimblette experience

60+ mins for the full on bimble

plus cider, spliff and chems - add 30 mins at least!

plus mud - add 30 mins and more drugs

use the least congested routes - a roundabout route is often quicker than direct

Edited April 16, 2010 by caramello

[Langdale Wolf]

I agreed to nothing, show me where I signed up to that.

In which case lets go with a previous suggestion of mine of installing Futurama style transportation tubes everywhere

[rainbowstar]

15-25 mins anywhere to anywhere if you dont bimble and dont look at anything

20-40 mins if you bimble a bit drunkenly

45+ mins for a little bimblette experience

60+ mins for the full on bimble

use the least congested routes - a roundabout route is often quicker than direct

[Steve P]

People would piss down them. Bad idea.

[jbutcher]

You'll need 4 lists.

Sober - dry ground

Sober - muddy

Drunk - dry ground

Drunk - muddy

HTH

Esau

[Langdale Wolf]

Just because that's what they'd do in the Black Country doesn't mean we should all be tarred with that brush matey!

[TheAmalfiGlow]

I agreed to nothing, show me where I signed up to that.

In which case lets go with a previous suggestion of mine of installing Futurama style transportation tubes everywhere

[TheAmalfiGlow]

15-25 mins anywhere to anywhere if you dont bimble and dont look at anything

20-40 mins if you bimble a bit drunkenly

45+ mins for a little bimblette experience

60+ mins for the full on bimble

plus cider, spliff and chems - add 30 mins at least!

plus mud - add 30 mins and more drugs

use the least congested routes - a roundabout route is often quicker than direct

[halvin]

I hate to be the one to post a serious reply but it would be possible to measure the distances using Glasto Earth, wouldn't it?

You could then get the walking times by estimating walking speed at around 2mph, say?

[worthyraver]

I hate to be the one to post a serious reply but it would be possible to measure the distances using Glasto Earth, wouldn't it?

You could then get the walking times by estimating walking speed at around 2mph, say?

[Langdale Wolf]

I hate to be the one to post a serious reply but it would be possible to measure the distances using Glasto Earth, wouldn't it?

You could then get the walking times by estimating walking speed at around 2mph, say?

[TheAmalfiGlow]

I hate to be the one to post a serious reply but it would be possible to measure the distances using Glasto Earth, wouldn't it?

You could then get the walking times by estimating walking speed at around 2mph, say?

[Adster]

It really does depend on conditions. At the end of a set on the pyramid stage on an evening it can take upwards of 15 mins just to get out of the crowd. The crowds after blur last year were so big it took us over an hour to reach the park. And in the mud of 07 it took forever to get anywhere.

Contrast that to wed/thu when in decent weather you can tour the entire festival in a few hours.

[ThomThomDrum]

How long is a piece of string?

There is not definitive answer to times between stages.

It depends on loads of things including

Who is playing what stage, when and how popular are they? (This can result in major jams with you moving nowhere fast for ages)

Whats your starting position in the area you are in in relation to the direction you are going? eg Are you in the crowd up the front of the Pyramid looking to go to the Other, or are you at the back to the left as you face the stage going to the Other? Massive difference in results!

Do you need to cross any main stage areas when really busy? eg cutting across the Other Stage area mid gig to get to the Dance Village, or Crossing the Pyramid Field mid gig to get to the John Peel? It will have a major impact on speeds........

What are the ground conditions like? If you get 2007 type mud it takes a year to put one foot in front of the other.

Who are you with and how many of you? On your own you will obviously travel faster, but with a big crowd trying to stay together can slow you down hugely, especially when people are hungry, thirsty and need to go top the toilet...........

How good of a navigator are you? Can you assess crowds ahead of you and change directions appropriately so as to choose the right paths to keep you moving? This is an inate talent lacking in many.

Are you familiar with the lay of the land? Many people not actually can get lost and go way out of their way

How drunk are you?

How tired are you?

Are your feet sore from days of walking?

Are you on drugs? (You may never get to where you want sometimes in this state!)

etc etc etc

You would need an advace mathamatical model really to help you get a true answer and still it may be way out!

It Glasto..........go with the flow, dont stress, see what happens and have a good time!

[ukslim]

OK, I tried measuring the routes I would take using the ruler in Glasto Earth.

The distances are in metres, and the times are in decimal minutes assuming 2 metres/second walking pace.

Of course you'll have to add bimbling time, exhaustion time, crowd nuisance time, etc.

It's all colourful in Excel. I'll put a screenshot in another post.

                  Pyramid         Other           Jazz            Peel            Park            Dance           Glade           Acoustic        Avalon          Croissant       Shangri

dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time dist time

Pyramid 0 0.00

Other 560 4.67 0 0.00

Jazz 720 6.00 580 4.83 0 0.00

Peel 640 5.33 670 5.58 1260 10.50 0 0.00

Park 1420 11.83 725 6.04 1130 9.42 1340 11.17 0 0.00

Dance 680 5.67 410 3.42 960 8.00 240 2.00 1330 11.08 0 0.00

Glade 720 6.00 260 2.17 560 4.67 1000 8.33 630 5.25 780 6.50 0 0.00

Acoustic 690 5.75 960 8.00 640 5.33 1280 10.67 1840 15.33 1420 11.83 970 8.08 0 0.00

Avalon 1020 8.50 810 6.75 225 1.88 1530 12.75 1080 9.00 1350 11.25 520 4.33 710 5.92 0 0.00

Croissant Neuf 1000 8.33 780 6.50 390 3.25 1430 11.92 780 6.50 1270 10.58 400 3.33 1030 8.58 290 2.42 0 0.00

Shangri-La 1170 9.75 980 8.17 560 4.67 1670 13.92 1170 9.75 1410 11.75 620 5.17 1270 10.58 165 1.38 425 3.54 0 0.00

Stone Circle 1250 10.42 1030 8.58 650 5.42 1660 13.83 635 5.29 1460 12.17 640 5.33 1040 8.67 480 4.00 250 2.08 480 4.00

[plaskins]

2 metres/second walking pace.

[ukslim]

[r0cky]

OK, I tried measuring the routes I would take using the ruler in Glasto Earth.

The distances are in metres, and the times are in decimal minutes assuming 2 metres/second walking pace.

Of course you'll have to add bimbling time, exhaustion time, crowd nuisance time, etc.