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But banks are insured

but banks still don't give people more money if they've lost the money they've just withdrawn. B)

But even if they did, the result of them doing so does not risk anyone dying as allowing people in without tickets would at Glastonbury.

Plus, notwithstanding all the valid pointss above, if the ticket is genuinely lost (tricky to tell I know) then letting in the muppet without a ticket doesn't cost anyone anything!

as you part recognise, it's impossible - not merely "tricky" - to know. :P

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the photos are on the tickets as an anti-touting measure, not as an "I've lost my ticket" measure.

As I said, the system works. However, all systems fail eventually due to human error - there's no avoiding that human error, and Glasto are well aware of that. It's as backup against that human error which requires each person to have their ticket. Glasto can only take responsibility for the human errors of their staff, which they do do with the system they operate. It is not their place to take responsibility for the human errors of the rest of the world's population.

If they changed it so that they allowed the likes of you in without a ticket, then that would be a weaker system. Due to the problems pre-2002 with huge numbers of the unticketed gaining entry they cannot risk operating a weaker system than what they have.

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agree completely... but there are some... well one person on this thread that feel computers on the gates would be affected by adverse weather... when a whole festival can be run without the weather adversely affecting it... almost!!!

I'm repeating to you Glasto's own view. B)

How do I know their view? Cos I'm the one that first suggested to them an electronic gate system.

If a stage goes down, it has no consequences beyond a little disappointment. If an electronic gate system goes down, the whole festival is 100% f**ked.

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no. The onus is on the person to have a ticket as the T&Cs say.

it's not just "a laptop" - the laptops part (tho hundreds of them - one for each gate staff) is the easy part.

Any laptop is only any good at Glasto with it's multiple entry points if connected to a central system which is recording who is entering - otherwise people could enter via different gates using the same ticket, and no one would know about it.

If you'd see the MASSIVE queues at Solfest last year, you wouldn't be saying that the delays would be negligable. B)

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Did you get insurance on your ticket? i ask because i am not sure what this extra bit of money to fork out for insurance actually means,,some one did say the insurance will only cover your ticket if you should lose it etc for a certain amount of time how the heck can you judge if you are ill etc.

I do not blame this person for getting into Glasto free his or her way i am quiet annoyed that you had all the evidence to support you bought the ticket and they still would not listen to you and let you in i fully understand Glasto being cautious about lost tickets because some people would have sold them on and tried to get in free but as always in this world one persons badness can leads to other honest people suffering as you did.

The ticket system annoyed me full stop any way because seetickets will not allowed anyone in the UK to pay by credit card so if we would have not have had the savings to pay for a few tickets we would not have been able to go and this is a recession B):P:(

But i feel for you mate i really do and beleive me a lot of people would have done the same as you do if they where in your shoes

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Brilliant you took the time to post that gem?!
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Actually many T&Cs are rarely legally binding. In many cases they are there deter those who aren't fully aware of their rights as a consumer from demanding what they are entitled to.

As I said I'm no IT consultant but this is why I mentioned the holding area, police deterrent, extra hike.

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While I understand your frustration at having lost your ticket and still wishing to attend.....

As you point out, the T&Cs say you need your ticket to enter.

No one treated you like shit apart from yourself. You had lost the ticket that you need to have to enter. That is no one's fault but your own.

How much you've spent is an irrelevance. An equivalent of what you're saying is: You go to the bank and withdraw £1000; you lose that £1000; you go back to the bank and demand another £1000 cos you lost the first £1000; they laugh at you cos you're taking the piss and don't give you another £1000.

Would their laughter be unjustified? Or would it be what you'd rightly expect to happen due to you having lost that £1000 by your own fault? :P .... There is only one right answer.

They do not have to implement any lost ticket system; it is not and never should be their responsibility for what you do totally outside of their control. Or do you still expect your mother to wipe your arse for you? B)

If they were to implement a lost ticket system, there would be massive expenses for them to do so. It would require a site-wide computer system (not easy to keep up and running due to the weather), custom-written software; extra staff; extra delays at the gates; and probably much more.

Why should the rest of us pick up these costs just because a tiny number of people can't take responsibility for their own doings?

I sympathise with you still wanting to go. But it's still all your own fault, and you expecting others to take responsibility for your own actions is about as pathetic as things can get.

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yep, took me so long to do too! B)

I just dont get what you are all argueing about! As someone else said earlier, you just make sure you dont lose it, someone else said, yeah but sometimes this shit happens...yep, it does, so live with it.

If I turned up onsite and couldnt find my ticket, oh boy Id be pissed off sure, but would I try and argue my way in...maybe for a bit, but I wouldnt expect to be let in...it was my own stupid fault for losing the ticket!!

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unless you're able to suggest a system to them that is as foolproof to fraud as the current system AND which is able to keep working 100% of the time, then it will remain "absolutely intolerable".

I know that Glasto think extremely hard about these things, and are always considering other options. They have the system that they do because it's the only system guaranteed to work.

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yep, took me so long to do too! B)

I just dont get what you are all argueing about! As someone else said earlier, you just make sure you dont lose it, someone else said, yeah but sometimes this shit happens...yep, it does, so live with it.

If I turned up onsite and couldnt find my ticket, oh boy Id be pissed off sure, but would I try and argue my way in...maybe for a bit, but I wouldnt expect to be let in...it was my own stupid fault for losing the ticket!!

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I'm repeating to you Glasto's own view. B)

How do I know their view? Cos I'm the one that first suggested to them an electronic gate system.

If a stage goes down, it has no consequences beyond a little disappointment. If an electronic gate system goes down, the whole festival is 100% f**ked.

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Licence smichence.

You're trying to tell me that the licence numbers were not exceed this Year??

I've no idea, but I saw nothing to make me think they were. The reasons why people think it busier was, IMO, because lots of people were in the same places at the same times, while other parts of the site were near empty.

For example: there were around 500 people watching the Jazzworld Saturday headliners. Meaning that the tens of thousands that would normally be at that stage for a headliner were at other stages, making them far more busy and giving the impression of more people on site.

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And if you were mugged or robbed on the way to the festival?
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I'm repeating to you Glasto's own view. B)

How do I know their view? Cos I'm the one that first suggested to them an electronic gate system.

If a stage goes down, it has no consequences beyond a little disappointment. If an electronic gate system goes down, the whole festival is 100% f**ked.

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I'm not sure it REALLY IS that simple. It only represents right of entry. Seetickets can put what the feck they like in their T&Cs, doesn't mean that they're legally sound.

Where's a consumer rights lawyer specialising in the entertainment industry when you need one....

The T&Cs are Glastonbury's not See Tickets.

And you can be certain that they've had them vetted by legal professionals and are as water-tight as it's possible to be. They're not amateurs you know. B)

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As you can probably tell, this thread is getting right on my goat.

Genuinley interested to know what efestivals would have done in this scenario;

Stopped off for a comfort break at a nearby boozer on way to fest. Dropped wallet on way out and got to the gate without ticket. Would you ;

A) Oh well, the T&C's say no ticket no entry, I am a bellend, have a good time chaps, I'm off.

:( Argue the toss with the nearest ticketmaster rep/ security supervisor till you were blue in the face?

C) Phone a friend. ( Gain entry, someone picks up your ticket, phones ticketless mate who chances his arm and gains entry hence flounting the risk of increasing the capacity and risking the license for next year at risk?

All well and good playing devils advocate, but if the shoe was on the other foot..........

I've already posted that if the same had happened to me I'd have probably done similar to the OP and tried somehow to get in. And yes, I would have even tried phoning Michael and Emily or whoever else, trying to use my position to try and get in.

What I wouldn't have done is felt there was any failure on the part of the festival.

If you care to notice, I've not given any criticism of the OP for him trying what he tried - I've only criticised his view that the festival is somehow at fault. The festival does all it has to to protect it's own position; the same applies to every ticket holder in regard to their ticket.

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