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8 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Makes things interesting. Hopefully llando doesn’t blow this chance 

It wasn't the greatest race but Piastri's first-lap DNF by default really opens this up. Norris needed to have more bite in passing Yuki Tsunoda imo, but it's better than nothing.

 

I don't think Verstappen is going to get back into the running given he's nearly 3 race wins behind, but he's got momentum with 2 wins in a row. If Red Bull can build a better car for Singapore, a track that Verstappen has never won at, then it really will make it interesting.

 

Russell getting P2 despite being very ill and admitting he could've missed the race is pretty impressive imo. Sainz unquestionably had his best display of the year to get Williams a first podium in ages (least in races that went the distance, unlike that Belgian race in 2021).

 

Also means that Hadjar, Hulkenberg and Sainz have all got Grand Prix podiums this year and Hamilton doesn't. If I'd predicted that pre-season I'd have sounded like a madman.

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2 minutes ago, charlierc said:

It wasn't the greatest race but Piastri's first-lap DNF by default really opens this up. Norris needed to have more bite in passing Yuki Tsunoda imo, but it's better than nothing.

 

I don't think Verstappen is going to get back into the running given he's nearly 3 race wins behind, but he's got momentum with 2 wins in a row. If Red Bull can build a better car for Singapore, a track that Verstappen has never won at, then it really will make it interesting.

 

Russell getting P2 despite being very ill and admitting he could've missed the race is pretty impressive imo. Sainz unquestionably had his best display of the year to get Williams a first podium in ages (least in races that went the distance, unlike that Belgian race in 2021).

 

Also means that Hadjar, Hulkenberg and Sainz have all got Grand Prix podiums this year and Hamilton doesn't. If I'd predicted that pre-season I'd have sounded like a madman.

I think Norris needed a little more than he got ... hes an outside chance at best now in my opinion unless weve started to see Piastri starting to blow it , he made several errors this weekend ... I think max is too far back and out of it now . Lewis seems to be getting starts to weekends where he seems like he will be coming back into it and then having nothing qualifying sessions and leaving him too much to do in races 

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Singapore may have again demonstrated it's more fun when there's safety cars but there's certainly a lot to talk about given Norris essentially barging Piastri out the way and Piastri really not taking it well. I thought it was just first corner shenanigans tbf but it seems to feed a narrative some have that McLaren would rather Norris be the champion that Oscar.

 

May not have helped with the nerves either, given both got outscored by Verstappen again. Even if fair play to Russell for nailing the lights-to-flag win and putting to bed any demons from his crash that denied him a podium there in 2023.

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Usually I can't say I'm too bothered by the sprints but this one deserves attention. Difficult to see how that could've gone any worse for McLaren with Norris & Piastri out straight away and Max winning. I know its only 8 points for a win but momentum is a big thing in sport and the fact Max has already outscored both McLarens in recent weeks means they really could've done without this mess.

 

Think Aston Martin can also say they had a turd of a day so far with Alonso getting taken out in the lap 1 melee and Stroll making a truly idiotic move on Ocon that wiped both out.

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On 19/10/2025 at 21:59, Crazyfool01 said:

Well that tightens things up a bit . Don’t really want max to win it but fair play to him for still being in with a chance 

The fact that next up is Mexico City, which is by far one of Max's best tracks, feels like there's real momentum building. And yeah, if he can do it, you have to be impressed, regardless of whether you like him and Red Bull or not. He was over 100 points behind after Piastri won at Zandvoort in the first race after the summer break and there was races in the first half of the season like Hungary when he was so far off the pace where it looked like he was never going to catch up. But here we are.

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On 22/10/2025 at 20:58, charlierc said:

The fact that next up is Mexico City, which is by far one of Max's best tracks, feels like there's real momentum building.

Huh. Jinxed it. If Max had won Mexico, I might have been confident he was on course to do it. Admittedly his Mexican race ended well to get third (and nearly second) from a race where he could've been in the barrier at turn one, nearly crashed into Hamilton and was at one point overtaken by a Haas (an admittedly very impressive Haas given it was Bearman's best drive).

 

Fair play to Norris - absolutely demolished the field. Piastri is going to have to pull his fingers out ASAP.

 

Also that incident with Lawson nearly striking a steward - what the f**k were the FIA doing?

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54 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

game over for Osca ? seems to be making too many errors now ? 

The strange thing is that I don't think it even was the worst mistake, given on-boards hint several other drivers nearly made that mistake and indeed 2 others in Hulkenberg & Colapinto did. But with everything that's happened since his nightmare in Azerbaijan a few races ago, this just adds to a sense of momentum very much shifting everything out of his hands.

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That was quite a good race in Brazil. In a year where a lot of races have kinda felt predictable from the first few corners, Sao Paulo just seems really good at getting competitive racing and it delivered again.

 

Norris feels like the favourite for the title now. I know it won't be done 'til its done, but Piastri looks shot and as much as Max is still capable of amazing drivers like his pit lane to podium charge today, I think he now has too much to do.

 

Quite a fair few stories from that one too. Ferrari had a stinker, Antonelli getting a podium is nice to see after his difficult mid-season, Bortoleto's first home race was just miserable (if mercifully not causing serious injury after that horrible sprint crash) and Racing Bulls are probably breathing a sigh of relief that Lawson & Hadjar didn't cause a big crash at the end.

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Slept through qualifying but Lewis Hamilton P20 in the Ferrari. Bruh...

 

I gather it was luckless stuff with significant track evolution on a very wet track and he was unlucky with yellow flags due to others going off and his engineer not being helpful but his move to the reds really isn't working

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Well I was going to say that Norris basically has the title in his grasp despite his error letting Max winning in Las Vegas, and in theory, it still is the way as if he wins both sprint and race in Qatar next week, he's the champion. But Lordy Loo McLaren got that wrong. Double disqualification after taking an unnecessary risk on set-up is quite the shock turn of events.

 

The make-up of this is still against Max - Norris is still the favourite - but it only needs another problematic race for McLaren to truly open the door at the Abu Dhabi finale and if it is still mathematically possible for Verstappen to win there then all bets are off.

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28 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Well I was going to say that Norris basically has the title in his grasp despite his error letting Max winning in Las Vegas, and in theory, it still is the way as if he wins both sprint and race in Qatar next week, he's the champion. But Lordy Loo McLaren got that wrong. Double disqualification after taking an unnecessary risk on set-up is quite the shock turn of events.

 

The make-up of this is still against Max - Norris is still the favourite - but it only needs another problematic race for McLaren to truly open the door at the Abu Dhabi finale and if it is still mathematically possible for Verstappen to win there then all bets are off.

One race closer where piastri didn’t close up . So I guess Norris slightly more of a favorite but giving max a sniff isn’t an help as he’ll likely be error free Only watched this later on highlights on now where weirdly they showed the table mentioned the dqs but not what for . Wish I’d watched it live tbh 

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24 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

One race closer where piastri didn’t close up . So I guess Norris slightly more of a favorite but giving max a sniff isn’t an help as he’ll likely be error free Only watched this later on highlights on now where weirdly they showed the table mentioned the dqs but not what for . Wish I’d watched it live tbh 

The chronology is that as they were doing the post-race checks about an hour after it finished, it flashed up that both McLarens failed the checks for the planks under the cars: What we know about misjudgement behind shock McLaren double DSQ - The Race

 

Sure enough, the FIA then ruled about 4 hours after the race finished that the two McLarens failed these checks and the only option available is a disqualification.

 

This has come up now and then in this F1 car design rule cycle that began in 2022, with Mercedes, Ferrari, Alpine and Sauber all having at least one disqualification in the last 3 years due to this issue.

 

Bizarrely, it actually makes the inter-McLaren gap smaller - would've been 30 points had the result stood, but is back to 24. Max Verstappen is unquestionably the bigger threat to Lando than Oscar now though given his confidence looks gone.

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11 minutes ago, charlierc said:

The chronology is that as they were doing the post-race checks about an hour after it finished, it flashed up that both McLarens failed the checks for the planks under the cars: What we know about misjudgement behind shock McLaren double DSQ - The Race

 

Sure enough, the FIA then ruled about 4 hours after the race finished that the two McLarens failed these checks and the only option available is a disqualification.

 

This has come up now and then in this F1 car design rule cycle that began in 2022, with Mercedes, Ferrari, Alpine and Sauber all having at least one disqualification in the last 3 years due to this issue.

 

Bizarrely, it actually makes the inter-McLaren gap smaller - would've been 30 points had the result stood, but is back to 24. Max Verstappen is unquestionably the bigger threat to Lando than Oscar now though given his confidence looks gone.

makes for an interesting conclusion and seems like the FIA got it right despite mclaren protestations , a dnf for LLando I think now is the only way either of the other 2 win it ... 

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15 hours ago, charlierc said:

The chronology is that as they were doing the post-race checks about an hour after it finished, it flashed up that both McLarens failed the checks for the planks under the cars: What we know about misjudgement behind shock McLaren double DSQ - The Race

 

Sure enough, the FIA then ruled about 4 hours after the race finished that the two McLarens failed these checks and the only option available is a disqualification.

 

This has come up now and then in this F1 car design rule cycle that began in 2022, with Mercedes, Ferrari, Alpine and Sauber all having at least one disqualification in the last 3 years due to this issue.

 

Bizarrely, it actually makes the inter-McLaren gap smaller - would've been 30 points had the result stood, but is back to 24. Max Verstappen is unquestionably the bigger threat to Lando than Oscar now though given his confidence looks gone.

 

Official FIA Stewards report on Piastri's car....McLaren can shout all they like about porpoising, the weather and shortened testing time but the fact remains they broke the rules and that's that.  Ridiculous risk/error to make at this stage of the game.

 

Lando may still have the edge but no-one should dismiss Verstappen's ability to snatch this at the death, fairly or otherwise.

 

The last 2 are going to be a thrill ride.

 

 

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Well the Qatar race was crap but the consequences of it very much aren't thanks to McLaren dropping the ball again like they did in Las Vegas. 

 

It's somehow still in their hands - podium for Lando or even a win for Oscar combined with Lando having a bad race in Abu Dhabi gets a McLaren driver the championship. But my word are they making it hard for themselves. 

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I'm not going to be able to watch live today as I have other commitments but the championship contenders as the front 3 is a very fascinating prospect indeed. Not least given Max crashed into Oscar at turn one in this race last year. 

 

I think it'll be Max winning the race but Lando getting the podium he needs that's good enough. But crazy things happen at title deciders. I just hope it's not boring like a lot of Abu Dhabi races have tended to be. 

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It won't be enough for Max to simply drive off into the distance while Lando cruises round to the 3rd he needs.  Max could opt to head off (or be gifted the lead by both McLaren's) but then attempt to back the pack up in order to put Lando at risk from the field.  The counter risk from that is that he then exposes himself to Oscar, who needs the win.

 

Given the above don't rule out the Racing Bulls coming into the mix in order to undercut or hinder the papaya boys at every opportunity.

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7 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Yay nice one lando  🏁bit nervy while in traffic but negotiated it well . Did worry the stewards might manufacture some kind of penalty for the off track overtake mind 

I've seen the incident and it was an interesting one. Could've been a penalty on another day because Lando did overtake Yuki off-track, but Yuki did basically shovel Lando off the track with a late move after weaving a lot. I think it could've been given but only if Yuki had been a lot cleaner.

 

Looked like a fairly clean race in the end tbf. I was kinda hoping for a bit more chaos and uncertainty, but seems like had we not known the title was on the line, would've just been a fairly simple Abu Dhabi eh-fest. One that ofc we only had because of McLaren screwing up Las Vegas and Qatar. Good for Lando too. I'm sure he'll be bloody delighted to get the job done, and fair play - his recovery since the summer break and that breakdown in Zandvoort has been excellent. Although if I'm fair, I honestly think it's a title Piastri lost with his awful Baku and then downturn in results after that.

 

I think Max can hold his head high tbf. To go from 100 points off the lead of the championship to finishing 2 behind the champion and winning more races than Lando and Oscar was a great effort. However it does raise questions on whether he might regret that move in the Spanish GP of driving into Russell on purpose as had he finished P5 rather than a penalty-induced P10, he'd have won the title. Admittedly, there were other races he lost it (slow and a long way off the podium in Monaco and Hungary, getting taken out by Antonelli on lap one in Austria, spinning under a safety car at Silverstone, even arguably taking a third stop in Brazil) and he's happy enough to say as a 4-time champion who's won 71 GP, he's ok he gave as good as it got.

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