Oasis

[Monkismo]

It's very sad to read all the judgemental comments on generic mod haircutted Oasis fans being brash lager louts etc...I'm probably one of the most die hard Oasis fans you could meet and I don't fit that stereotype in any way whatsoever. .)

[Leggins]

I'm an oasis fan. I've been to many of their gigs and have to agree that their fans are morons. I gave up being in the standing section of any of their gigs a long time ago after having piss thrown on me one too many times.

People are too busy fighting each other or drowning each other in piss for it to be anywhere near enjoyable in the standing section. I'll go see them again when the opportunity arises, but I'll be in the seated area again where the chances of coming home sinking of urine are vastly reduced.

[Guest]

It's very sad to read all the judgemental comments on generic mod haircutted Oasis fans being brash lager louts etc...

[maninkilt]

I hope not, when they were good they were very good, that was a long time ago and they should leave it at that.

[glastogirl88]

why the comparison between oasis and the beatles? He's a beatles fan, but oasis songs are nothing like any beatles song I ever heard.

[Wanderlei]

Oasis would be a good act inasmuch as if there was nothing else on at the same time, i'd drop by to have a bit of a nostalgia singalong session. But will they play? I don't think so, personally.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Step Out was due to be on Morning Glory but got withdrawn at the last minute, but AFAIK Wonder never sued.

It's also indebted, shall we say, to Rosalie by Thin Lizzy.

[russycarps]

Aside from Liam's blatant Lennon-eque voice, regards Noel ripping off (being influenced by) the Beatles, it's done subtly, or not so once you realise how much he does it. He has also done it to T-Rex ("borrowed" the riff from Get It On for Cigarettes and Alcohol) and Stevie Wonder (successfully sued by him for the B Side Step Out and has a songwriting credit.) I get that a song like Live Forever or Slide Away might not initially sound very much like a Beatles song, but just a few examples...

Don't Look Back in Anger's piano line is pretty much identical to that of Imagine (OK not strictly Beatles.) and Lennon's Watching the Wheels.

Guess God Thinks I'm Abel (Don't Believe the Truth Track) is a total rip off of I Wanna Be Your Man's melody

She's Electric uses identical chords as A Little Help from my Friends

I'm Outta Time (Don't Believe the Truth track) uses the same piano line as Jealous Guy (again not strictly Beatles..)

Champagne Supernova steals the guitar line from Dear Prudence

That isn't even going into the many, many Beatles references in their lyrics. "You can sail with me in your yellow submarine" (Supersonic) the use of Octopus' Garden at the end of Masterplan, the playing of one of Lennon's final interview before his death at the end of I'm Outta Time, the "na-na-na" in All Around the World the same as Hey Jude, "Tomorrow never knows what it doesn't know.." in Morning Glory, I could go on but I'll bore you

[CaledonianGonzo]

There was a period circa Morning Glory where almost all of Noel Gallagher's lyrics were taken from what must have been a well-thumbed Ian MacDonald's Revolution in the Head.

OK, "almost all" is an exaggeration, but it's definitely where phrases like 'Be Here Now' come from.

[mrtourette]

Oasis influenced by The Beatles? Get out.

[russycarps]

the point is, it's giving them way too much credit to suggest there are any similarities between oasis and the beatles

[mrtourette]

Well yeah, being influenced by, imitating and being similar to are all different things.

I always found it amusing that they were successfully sued by the guy behing The Rutles, that's probably the extent of their similarity to The Beatles.

[CaledonianGonzo]

He's fessed up to ripping off plenty of things, so I believe him when he says that one was a coincidence.

[Wooderson]

I get that a song like Live Forever might not initially sound very much like a Beatles song, but just a few examples...

[Guest]

Aside from Liam's blatant Lennon-eque voice, regards Noel ripping off (being influenced by) the Beatles, it's done subtly, or not so once you realise how much he does it. He has also done it to T-Rex ("borrowed" the riff from Get It On for Cigarettes and Alcohol) and Stevie Wonder (successfully sued by him for the B Side Step Out and has a songwriting credit.) I get that a song like Live Forever or Slide Away might not initially sound very much like a Beatles song, but just a few examples...

Don't Look Back in Anger's piano line is pretty much identical to that of Imagine (OK not strictly Beatles.) and Lennon's Watching the Wheels.

Guess God Thinks I'm Abel (Don't Believe the Truth Track) is a total rip off of I Wanna Be Your Man's melody

She's Electric uses identical chords as A Little Help from my Friends

I'm Outta Time (Don't Believe the Truth track) uses the same piano line as Jealous Guy (again not strictly Beatles..)

Champagne Supernova steals the guitar line from Dear Prudence

That isn't even going into the many, many Beatles references in their lyrics. "You can sail with me in your yellow submarine" (Supersonic) the use of Octopus' Garden at the end of Masterplan, the playing of one of Lennon's final interview before his death at the end of I'm Outta Time, the "na-na-na" in All Around the World the same as Hey Jude, "Tomorrow never knows what it doesn't know.." in Morning Glory, I could go on but I'll bore you

[CaledonianGonzo]

Shine A Light? I must admit I didn't really join the dots on that one until I read NG copping to it. It's a pretty minor lift, all told.

[Wooderson]

Yep, Shine A Light.

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Oasis thoughout the 1990's/Early 2000's the most consistently disappointing live act around.

Stationary, non-commital, aloof. Gash, basically.

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Few good b-sides in fairness. I love "Its Good To Be Free". Noel had the audacity to say that "Little By Little" was their best song from the stage at Glasters in 2004 though. Thats all that needs be said about them.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Must have seen Oasis about 7 or 8 times in the mid 1990s and the only one I remember enjoying entirely without reservations was their mid-afternoon set in the King Tuts tent at T in the Park in 1994. Maine Road was the last time I paid in to see them and I thought they were dire.

[Wooderson]

One unheralded positive from Oasis' time at the top of the heap is that they broadened the fanbase for pop music as a whole.

Successes of the big festivals in last decade or so can partly be put down to the ripples throughout youthful society brought about by the seismic impact of Oasis at the peak of their powers.

Put simply they made the UK take notice of pop music again on a huge scale. Thats crucial.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Pity it was through the medium of backward-looking meat and potatoes guitar music than something with a bit more vision or eccentricity or innovation. Looking back at Britpop, it's such a staid, conservative, parochial phenomenon.

[Wooderson]

Pity it was through the medium of backward-looking meat and potatoes guitar music than something with a bit more vision or eccentricity or innovation. Looking back at Britpop, it's such a staid, conservative, parochial phenomenon.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Depends on what you class as Britpop, I suppose. I like The Boo Radleys, Gorkys, Stereolab and SFA as much (probably more) than the next man, but then they've only really got release dates in common with the likes of Cast, OCS, 90s Weller, Shed 7, Kula Shaker, etc. - and in the case of the latter lot ah'm oot.

Edit: And I guess the key difference is that the former set of groups would have existed in identical form regardless of Oasis's success. Difficult to say the same of Northern Uproar or what have you.

Edited October 29, 2013 by CaledonianGonzo

[Guest]

One unheralded positive from Oasis' time at the top of the heap is that they broadened the fanbase for pop music as a whole.

Successes of the big festivals in last decade or so can partly be put down to the ripples throughout youthful society brought about by the seismic impact of Oasis at the peak of their powers.

Put simply they made the UK take notice of pop music again on a huge scale. Thats crucial.

[mrtourette]

Depends on what you class as Britpop, I suppose. I like The Boo Radleys, Gorkys, Stereolab and SFA as much (probably more) than the next man, but then they've only really got release dates in common with the likes of Cast, OCS, 90s Weller, Shed 7, Kula Shaker, etc. - and in the case of the latter lot ah'm oot.

Edit: And I guess the key difference is that the former set of groups would have existed in identical form regardless of Oasis's success. Difficult to say the same of Northern Uproar or what have you.

Edited October 29, 2013 by mrtourette

[Mardy]

One unheralded positive from Oasis' time at the top of the heap is that they broadened the fanbase for pop music as a whole.

Successes of the big festivals in last decade or so can partly be put down to the ripples throughout youthful society brought about by the seismic impact of Oasis at the peak of their powers.

Put simply they made the UK take notice of pop music again on a huge scale. Thats crucial.