BBC coverage to be given the "Olympics treatment"

[MEGABOWL]

The bias cannot be acknowledged by the BBC as it would put them in contravention of their Royal Charter.

[Trebor]

The BBC isn't even as left-wing as most people think anymore. Lots of Tories are in positions of power within it, which may explain the disgusting lack of coverage given to the destruction of the NHS.

[eFestivals]

Lots of Tories are in positions of power within it

yup, such as its chairman - who bends over and takes one from his political masters, without a word of complaint. Edited February 5, 2013 by eFestivals

[Trebor]

Yep, it hasn't been truly independent sine the 80s probably. A great shame. But a world without the BBC would be truly awful.

[James Bolivar]

I keep posting to JB "you are James Murdoch and I claim my five pounds" for very good reasons.

[James Bolivar]

AFAIK it's only been acknowledged by the right-wing press. The Mail, Sun, Telegraph, TImes, Express need a bogeyman to point at

[eFestivals]

and because it is the Gaurdianistas' stock response to anything that doesn't follow their agenda.

No. It's because you're spouting the same ill-informed guff that Murdoch Jr does that you expect others to accept as truth - and if they do, your agenda to destroy the bbc is complete.

[James Bolivar]

The BBC isn't even as left-wing as most people think anymore. Lots of Tories are in positions of power within it, which may explain the disgusting lack of coverage given to the destruction of the NHS.

[eFestivals]

Could it be that they are not as left-wing as you want them to be? The BBC is certainly more supportive of Internationalism, state provision of services, centralization and other "big-ticket" left-wing agenda than the vast majority of UK mainstream press, is it because those media outlets are "right-wing" or the BBC is "left-wing"? It is not a sin to read the Telegraph; though I doubt many Torygraph readers go to hippy festivals.

Is the BBC only to be measured against the almost-exclusively raving right media that exists in this country?

It is beyond question that the UK mainstream media is raving right. Only someone of the raving right would be uunable to recognise that.

Meanwhile, the BBC reflects the mainstream views of this country - and you can be damned sure that almost nothing of that is left-wing.

But for the raving right, mainstream and often sensible views are only left wing.

If the BBC are such supporters of the left, you have to wonder how come the Thatcherist (so right wing) Blair ever got into power. Or your hero Dave Moron, who was so out of step yesterday with the homophobes he leads.

If the BBC managed to present any left wing views we'd have a better country.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

This may seem a bit of a stupid question but how do you know it is if you never watch it?

[Guest]

Could it be that they are not as left-wing as you want them to be? The BBC is certainly more supportive of Internationalism, state provision of services, centralization and other "big-ticket" left-wing agenda than the vast majority of UK mainstream press, is it because those media outlets are "right-wing" or the BBC is "left-wing"? It is not a sin to read the Telegraph; though I doubt many Torygraph readers go to hippy festivals.

[eFestivals]

This may seem a bit of a stupid question but how do you know it is if you never watch it?

well, he knows that mainstream UK media isn't right wing, so he clearly knows everything useful.

[mozzy]

Well "right-wing press" is a bit of a tautology, but even the Guardian has published comment to this effect - most recently, a piece by Tariq Ali. And I do appreciate that a comment piece is not the same as editorial copy.

[eFestivals]

Tariq Ali - never has one man known so little about what he's talking about. He can't even make up his own mind, so he's incapable of helping make anyone else's.

(that's not about just the BBC btw, but about everything Ali writes. Check his history!).

[mozzy]

Tariq Ali - never has one man known so little about what he's talking about. He can't even make up his own mind, so he's incapable of helping make anyone else's.

(that's not about just the BBC btw, but about everything Ali writes. Check his history!).

[Trebor]

Could it be that they are not as left-wing as you want them to be?

Edited February 6, 2013 by Trebor

[strummer77]

The BBC is certainly more supportive of Internationalism, state provision of services, centralization and other "big-ticket" left-wing agenda than the vast majority of UK mainstream press, is it because those media outlets are "right-wing" or the BBC is "left-wing"?

[James Bolivar]

Oh a tool of the highest order and rightly ripped to pieces by Private Eye on many previous occasions but I only quoted him as James Bolivar was trying to use that particular Guardian article to support his nonsense.

[mozzy]

Not at all - I mentioned the Ali comment piece simply because, from memory, it was in the Gruaniad, a paper generally perceived to be centre-left and avowedly liberal, and it was at least critical of Auntie, its focus and the managerialism. I am in no way aligning myself with Mr Ali or any of his views.

[James Bolivar]

The others are undoubtedly right-wing. The other medias often declare political allegiances to certain right-wing political groups such as the Conservatives or New Labour. Just because the BBC are more left than those media does not mean they have a bias.

It is remarkable how much time they give to mad right ideas considering it often threatens their existence. A true test of neutrality if ever there was one.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

So New Labour are right-wing? A party with strong links to the Trade Union movement, a party founded as the political wing of the Trade union movement and, still, largely funded from union subscriptions. And,let's not forget, easily the most redistributive of the post-War governments. If that is "right-wing" to you then at least your perspective is obvious.

And, please, don't cite the various illegal wars they started or signed-up for - that doesn't make them right-wing it just makes them stupid and evil.

[eFestivals]

So New Labour are right-wing?

Yes.

The very fact of you asking the question gets to prove that you don't understand what is right wing and what is left wing.

[Trebor]

Any argument you had James has just been blown out of the water by that comment about Labour!

[strummer77]

So New Labour are right-wing? A party with strong links to the Trade Union movement, a party founded as the political wing of the Trade union movement and, still, largely funded from union subscriptions. And,let's not forget, easily the most redistributive of the post-War governments. If that is "right-wing" to you then at least your perspective is obvious.

And, please, don't cite the various illegal wars they started or signed-up for - that doesn't make them right-wing it just makes them stupid and evil.

Edited February 6, 2013 by strummer77

[whisty]

Some people just haven't been alive long enough.