Efesters from London

[russycarps]

not that I really care...

if you're in Central London, and you want to get to Richmond, you will travel in a mostly westerly direction.

<sigh>

[eFestivals]

Richmond is in the South West borough of London...

http://www.local.odp.../swlongrant.pdf

Sigh, it has a South West London post code, it's under the South West London borough,

What you mean is that the Borough of Richmond is in the south west of London.

There is no "South West London borough".

[russycarps]

also, it has a TW postcode, not SW

so really it's not proper London anyway. Anymore than the likes of Staines or Hounslow.

*looks down on tonyblair*

[jump]

What you mean is that the Borough of Richmond is in the south west of London.

There is no "South West London borough".

[eFestivals]

also, it has a TW postcode, not SW

so really it's not proper London anyway. Anymore than the likes of Staines or Hounslow.

*looks down on tonyblair*

spot on - traditionally, Richmond is in Surrey and not London. Wiki tells me it became part of London in 1965.

[russycarps]

My Bad! But I think there's a part of Richmond that has a SW post code as I had a friend who lived there once.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I'm back in Glasgow for a week then 80% sureish I'll be moving to a place in Tottenham for a while (rolling month contract) for dead cheap til I get on my feet which is 15 min s away from a tube station. Flung out cvs and stuff like hot cakes and doing the rest online. Met cool people there too (London in general, not Tottenham) so I have pals!

[russycarps]

I'm back in Glasgow for a week then 80% sureish I'll be moving to a place in Tottenham for a while (rolling month contract) for dead cheap til I get on my feet which is 15 min s away from a tube station. Flung out cvs and stuff like hot cakes and doing the rest online. Met cool people there too (London in general, not Tottenham) so I have pals!

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Tottenham eh. That'll make Glasgow seem like quiet little village in the Cotswolds.

Dont forget to pack your tevlar vest and pump action shotgun!

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Oh and pretty much haqve the flat (off a mate) - mates rates - and I can leave whenever I want.

[russycarps]

I'm only messing. I've never really been to Tottenham, only driven through it.

You'll see loads of those ace othodox jews there too, wearing their rekels (or whatever it's called).

[jump]

I'm only messing. I've never really been to Tottenham, only driven through it.

You'll see loads of those ace othodox jews there too, wearing their rekels (or whatever it's called).

[Pogues Mcgogues]

???

[russycarps]

Are you talking about a Kolpik (fuzzy round hat)? My girlfriend live in Tottenham and I'm always seeing those arund there, I actually want one as it's reminds me of Russian bad guys in Goldeneye.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

it's been suggested by 2 or 3 on here that Tottenham might not be a great place to live. I have a friend who was mugged twice in the short period she lived there

you said you're not scared of working class people in relation to you going to live there

are you making a correlation between unsafe areas and working class people?

[Ed209]

Nowhere in London is *that* bad. Because its a very integrated city there are no parts of London that I would say are no-go areas - unlike the large segregated Cities in America for example. As you said, if you don't go looking for it then you can have a trouble free life pretty much anywhere and it would be bad luck to encounter any problems .... however ... Turnpike Lane, Wood Green and Edmonton, are areas in around tottenham that I've been to, and as London goes, they're bad. I genuinely felt a bit uncomfortable walking round those places late at night. And the crime stats back that up.

Edited April 16, 2012 by Ed209

[jump]

No.

I'm challenging the idea that working class people mean unsafe areas/areas you should avoid and be scared of.

The majority of people I've spoken to face to face, and on here, give the opinion that Tottenham is shit without ever being to Tottenham (granted a lot on here was jest and joking, which I joked back with as well). Given that Tottenham certainly is a more working class area than a lot of other areas in London, I believe the notion that it is unsafe partly derives from that unfortunatily (although obv not for yourself as you know someone personally who was mugged twice there).

I relate this to my own experience as when I was in London and told people I was from Glasgow, I got the same response ('I heard it's realy rough', 'Is it full of steamers', 'oh my god you're better away from there'). Glasgow has a bigger population and more of a working class rep than anywhere else in Scotland, and also has a reputation of being rough. I know that Glasgow isn't rough at all, and have never had any trouble what so ever in Glasgow my whole life.

I know how I could find trouble in Glasgow.

Glasgow and Tottenham both have higher crime rate figures for various things.

However, I'm betting that Tottenham has the reputation it has the same reasons as to why Glasgow does. I'm betting I will go to Tottenham and have no bother at all unless I'm realy unlucky. I'm betting that if I want to find trouble in Tottenham, I could find it the same way I can in Glasgow. I'm betting there's no difference.

Therefore, my essay concludes that Tottenham has a bad rep the same reason as Glasgow does, slightly higher crime figures and a more working class feel to the area, which doesn't actualy mean trouble, just a reputation of trouble.

Edited April 16, 2012 by jump

[Ed209]

d'oh

Edited April 16, 2012 by Ed209

[jump]

Nowhere in London is *that* bad. Because its a very integrated city there are no parts of London that I would say are no-go areas - unlike the large segregated Cities in America for example. As you said, if you don't go looking for it then you can have a trouble free life pretty much anywhere and it would be bad luck to encounter any problems .... however ... Turnpike Lane, Wood Green and Edmonton, are areas in around tottenham that I've been to, and as London goes, they're bad. I genuinely felt a bit uncomfortable walking round those places. And the crime stats back that up.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Bloody immigrants, they came to my country and think they know it all!

[Pogues Mcgogues]

cool... sorry

my thoughts on Tottenham are based on actual events, friends of mine that have lived there

as you say, you might not have any problem at all there, aaaand... you could live somewhere 'nicer', and have bad things happen to you

when I say to some people that I live in Willesden Green, they look a little surprised that I don't have a problem here

[Paul ™]

Anyway I give you a month at most... first it was moving to Canada, then touring/working Europe which lasted about 2 weeks...

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Anyway I give you a month at most... first it was moving to Canada, then touring/working Europe which lasted about 2 weeks...

[Paul ™]

So you around for the meet on the 28th?

[Pogues Mcgogues]

So you around for the meet on the 28th?