Football 2011-2012

[thegremlin_1999]

*shudder*

That's fucking hideous!

[thetime]

well took a mild interest in the fa cup this weekend and sunderland still going well. ONly watched one of the games totally and that was the spurs game, and crawley were outstanding and was a shame they didnt do more in front of goal.

As barry said a few days ago you can get alot of luck in the fa cup, liverpool getting another home draw which makes it every round this season. So the luck could be with liverpool this season, can see them winning both cups this season.

[strummer77]

well took a mild interest in the fa cup this weekend and sunderland still going well. ONly watched one of the games totally and that was the spurs game, and crawley were outstanding and was a shame they didnt do more in front of goal.

As barry said a few days ago you can get alot of luck in the fa cup, liverpool getting another home draw which makes it every round this season. So the luck could be with liverpool this season, can see them winning both cups this season.

Edited February 19, 2012 by strummer77

[thetime]

Think we've had every round possible at home in the league and every round possible away in the CC! Odds on that?!

Also played Brighton then Stoke then Chelsea in League cup. Same again?

[strummer77]

yeah I noticed that trying to wind my mate up about liverpool always getting home draws, and looking on wiki found out you had all away games in carling cup....shut me right up haha!

still stand by my liverpool v spurs final.

will be good for livepools short term success!!!

[thetime]

Haha! Yeah few cups are always useful in a period of transition. United always picked up a few cups whilst they went yonks without the league. Keeps you on the radar.

[strummer77]

Not that many to be honest from the 1968 euro cup we won the fa cup in 1977(v liverpool, might aswel get that in), 1983, 1985 and 1990 when it all started with fergie.

3 trophies in 22 years, makes arsene wengers record prolific haha!

[thetime]

Oh before my time but I thought you had won a few more!

Was a good weekend in general this week in the FA Cup. Watched 3 games and they were all good (Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool) in their own ways.

Edited February 19, 2012 by thetime

[strummer77]

are the semis at wembley again this year?

[thetime]

Yep. It's rubbish but they have to pay for the thing somehow I suppose.

Wembley should be reserved for finals and internationals.

[strummer77]

yep pretty dire.

oh by the way I hope you lose next week in final.

[thetime]

Cheers, it'll be the same if you get to the Europa final.

[strummer77]

Fair play to you!

Always found the carling cup final to be a better day than the fa cup final, due to the ticket allocation etc etc.

have a good day.

[kaosmark2]

I on the other hand, really really really hope you win.

I want another Europa League spot available for the league in case you finish above us

[strummer77]

I on the other hand, really really really hope you win.

I want another Europa League spot available for the league in case you finish above us

Edited February 19, 2012 by strummer77

[thegremlin_1999]

Have to say, I want liverpool to win for the simple fact I hate Cardiff... Choice between Cardiff and virtually anyone except utd/Leeds/derby and they'll be getting my support... Haha

[kaosmark2]

Haha! I remember last year when Arsenal got done by Birmingham and the Europa place went. Was fucking annoyed after I'd laughed at my Arsenal supporting housemate for a bit!

[eFestivals]

Also, Ronaldo scored again last night. 121 goals in 123 games for Madrid!

is that an indication of Skippy's extraordinarily high skill level, or an indication of how weak Spanish football is away from the big two?

That's a serious question btw.

[eFestivals]

He has already shown he is an exceptional talent (in my eyes anyway)... Spanish Football is hardly weak... So I would put it down to him...

I'm not doubting he has exceptional talent.

I'm doubting whether it's just talent that has him having such an exceptional scoring record. It makes him just about the best goal-scorer of all time in top-level footie, while I'm not sure if his talent is quite at that level.

[eFestivals]

The answer is probably 20% down to the fact the big two dominate but 80% down to his skill...

Other big time players aren't scoring as highly as him so you have to give a heavy amount of the credit down to him I feel...

the answer probably comes from a deeper analysis than just that I reckon. I don't know enough about Spanish footie to do that tho.

For example, it might be that he bangs in lots of goals against the very weakest teams in the Spanish league but his record against the better teams is pretty poor. Or one of the many other possibilities.

Unless you're very familiar with Spanish footie, you're no less out of your depth to answer my question than I am myself.

[The Nal]

is that an indication of Skippy's extraordinarily high skill level, or an indication of how weak Spanish football is away from the big two?

That's a serious question btw.

[thetime]

I would say ronaldo did the same in england, scored a load of goal against weaker teams but not alot against chelsea and liverpool.

There was a stat at the start of season he had scored about 5/6 times in 50 games v barcalona, liverpool and chelsea.

But I wouldnt moan if he came back to united.

[eFestivals]

Both, but more the former. A lot more. Exceptional skill. But the Spanish league is a shit standard outside of the top two. He did score 42 goals for Utd in one season though.

I'm not doubting he's got exceptional skill, but I'm trying to get at just how exceptional it is.

Those scoring stats put him at about the level of the best goal-scorer in the history of football. There's no doubting he's very very good, but is he that good - about the best there's ever been?

From what I know of him I wouldn't have rated him quite that highly, but perhaps I'm wrong.

[The Nal]

Do you think ? Compared to who ?

Edited February 20, 2012 by The Nal

[The Nal]

So you are putting them in this order...

Prem

Serie A

La Liga

Bundesliga (guess)

I can't help but think there is some English arrogance creeping in here. Look at our top sides and the level of quality has been on the wain for a while. I don't think the likes of Stoke have particularly wonderful squads...