The Cuts. Is YOUR arse twitchin?

[llcoolphil]

they have to make certain choices which by default take away other choices. They have to decide what A levels they're going to aim for, which will go on to inform their decision of what degree they might take

this is how the system is designed, and how it functions. Secondary education's prime aim is to prepare the students for University... nothing else

[worm]

Though to be fair you said it wasn't your job to educate us by substantiating what you see as 'facts' - but you ask it of others.

[feral chile]

How many A levels or similar do you think people should be doing? I'd you want them to do more then you have to make them easier and that moves us backwards not forwards

[worm]

they have to make certain choices which by default take away other choices. They have to decide what A levels they're going to aim for, which will go on to inform their decision of what degree they might take

this is how the system is designed, and how it functions. Secondary education's prime aim is to prepare the students for University... nothing else

Edited February 12, 2011 by worm

[worm]

Nope, the level we're at is one where you're unable to provide the evidence you said you could provide.

[worm]

or extend the time spent getting a free education.

[llcoolphil]

or extend the time spent getting a free education.

[worm]

What would be the benefit of extending a levels past 18?

Edited February 12, 2011 by worm

[rabid]

Come on children - this is getting silly. It was entertaining for a while but if people want to challenge or hurl abuse shouldn't the place should be personal messages not the open forum - unless of course you are already exchanging personal messages that are even more vitriolic.

[llcoolphil]

We do that anyway with degrees Phil.

I think she means extend the 'free' sense of education passed 18 years of age. I'd like to see the age at which you can leave education lowered too so that we can recoup funding for those that want it. This is also why I feel that tackling lack of opportunity and identification of intellectual needs at the lower level is of primary importance.

[MrZigster]

The decision the extend compulsory education to 18 is nothing short of bewildering

[worm]

Reminds me of the Commons a lot of the time.

[worm]

A little massage of the unemployment figures possibly? The economics of which are probably debatable.

[feral chile]

I don't like to see education priced out of people's options, whichever level they might want to attain. I'd like to see education more accessible right up to at least Master's level.Maybe free education is too idealistic, but there shouldn't be financial barriers in the way of education.

16-18 is a strange age to be expected to knuckle down and plan for your future though. Raging hormones and all that.

I left school at 16, and that decision altered my life. It's strange to think that I'd never have met my husband under currect laws.

[worm]

It's strange to think that I'd never have met my husband under currect laws.

[feral chile]

You can apply that to every social law. In fact, you can apply it to every single conditional variable that leads to a choice, whether social, psychological, physical and/or human. Fate I mean, not particularly your husband.

You're right about 16 to 18, but what do we do? Have people attend education at later stages of live?

[worm]

Maybe give them a free pass to do A Levels when they're ready? Or have free lecture notes online, so people can educate themselves?

[llcoolphil]

I don't like to see education priced out of people's options, whichever level they might want to attain. I'd like to see education more accessible right up to at least Master's level.Maybe free education is too idealistic, but there shouldn't be financial barriers in the way of education.

16-18 is a strange age to be expected to knuckle down and plan for your future though. Raging hormones and all that.

I left school at 16, and that decision altered my life. It's strange to think that I'd never have met my husband under currect laws.

[rabid]

That'll be due to the polemic nature of some of the discussions reflecting the polemic nature of the Commons. There's one particular antogonist in every such thread.

[feral chile]

If anyone believes that H E upto and including undergraduate level is priced out of their options, they shouldn't be doing a degree in the first place.

Edited February 12, 2011 by feral chile

[worm]

Is polemic the same as puerile?

[Neil]

"theres one potagonist in every thread"

yep, thats the c**t who demands references from others but won't give them himself.

bye worm. Have fun with your degree in childrens stories. Thats all you give here too.

[worm]

yep, thats the c**t who demands references from others but won't give them himself.

[worm]

nope...

I'm saying that the age the choices are being made is too early.. generally

[worm]

my sister more or less dropped out of education by the time she was 14. She kept up the pretence as long as was necessary - being dropped off at the gates, walking towards the school until our mum had gone, then turned around and wandered around town for the day - and by the time she was 20 she had an idea of what she might want to do with her life, and has done very well. The options are much more limited today