No Muse?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Well that clears it up, to knwo the value of a band we must know whether or not they cry in the studio. What utter tripe. Do you actually know the subject matter of a single Muse song?

[Yellow_Fellow]

Soul, dear boy, is being able to sit down in a studio and not be able to finish singing your own lyrics because of how painful they are. Soul is being able to convey all of your innermost personal feelings into a form of expression - not in the hope that people join you in a good old fashioned singalong but because you're trying to get them out of your own personal Hell. Soul is being able to stand up in front of your mates and play 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for the first time, smiling the whole way through.

With Muse, everything is cold, meticulous and calculated. You can just tell that when they sat in the studio, Matt Bellamy is the type of boring c**t who'd painstakingly weep with egotistical joy over every little last pre-bend and every little bit of harmonic resonance in his songs, and then quite happily tell you about it and explain why it's sooooooo important - even if most ordinary people out there didn't notice - all the while twiddling with the tone knobs on his mountainous landscape of effects pedals. There's no soul in his music; just a load of teacher-taught histrionics that says absolutely f**k all about anything and speaks to nobody except the few uninteresting sods that go to his ridiculous gigs.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

tl;dr i'm going to make assumptions about things i know so little about it would be completely illogical to do so

[Yellow_Fellow]

Good question, why are you talking at all?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Good question, why are you talking at all?

[Cydonia_90]

Right, so im guessing Dave The Hedgehog doesn't like Muse then? If you dont like them, then that's fine, i respect your opinion, but dont waffle on...we get the message. Also, to call the people that go to their gigs "uninteresting sods" is a bit off. I'm sure there's a fair few people on this forum that have seen Muse and they would disagree with that.

If they did get announced for Reading this year...i'd be delighted. I struggle to think of another British band in the past 10 years (apart from Radiohead) that have set the bar for live music. They are outstanding live.

However, they're due a break. They've been non-stop touring for the past 10 years pretty much. A break would do them good.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Right, so im guessing Dave The Hedgehog doesn't like Muse then? If you dont like them, then that's fine, i respect your opinion, but dont waffle on...we get the message. Also, to call the people that go to their gigs "uninteresting sods" is a bit off. I'm sure there's a fair few people on this forum that have seen Muse and they would disagree with that.

[Yellow_Fellow]

When all else fails in an argument, resort to circular comebacks.

"You smell!"

- "No, you smell!"

It seems you have nothing more to say to me.

[Dan R]

To say that I don't like Muse would be an understatement. More blind, red misted hatred and vitriolic loathing.

To be fair, I've not met many interesting Muse fans. The vast majority I've had the displeasure of meeting tend to be within that realm of, as I said, "Kensington art student w*nkers" and none of them can really justify with any salient points why the music they like is so good, and spend most of their time talking about the light shows or how like the albums the live shows sound.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Why not just ignore them then?

[ArcadeMonkeys]

I must admit, from watching them on Youtube, they are obviously good... but they feel so staged, and unnatural.

Still think they'd be good, and would look forward to seeing them!

Absolution and Origin Of Symmetry were really good i thought.

[MEGABOWL]

If needs be she could give birth on stage? Something different. A crowd member could cut the cord.

[metallimuse]

Soul, dear boy, is being able to sit down in a studio and not be able to finish singing your own lyrics because of how painful they are. Soul is being able to convey all of your innermost personal feelings into a form of expression - not in the hope that people join you in a good old fashioned singalong but because you're trying to get them out of your own personal Hell. Soul is being able to stand up in front of your mates and play 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for the first time, smiling the whole way through.

With Muse, everything is cold, meticulous and calculated. You can just tell that when they sat in the studio, Matt Bellamy is the type of boring c**t who'd painstakingly weep with egotistical joy over every little last pre-bend and every little bit of harmonic resonance in his songs, and then quite happily tell you about it and explain why it's sooooooo important - even if most ordinary people out there didn't notice - all the while twiddling with the tone knobs on his mountainous landscape of effects pedals. There's no soul in his music; just a load of teacher-taught histrionics that says absolutely f**k all about anything and speaks to nobody except the few uninteresting sods that go to his ridiculous gigs.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

So using your talent and skills to create the best music you possibly can is pretensious but being so "emotional" you can't get your lyrics out isn't?

Edited January 18, 2011 by Dave The Hedgehog

[mrtourette]

Muse would be a good booking for the festival. Although I found them slightly boring last time and I'd only watch them in the absence of something I liked on another stage, regardless of their music they are a bona fide headline status band and enough people like them to make it a successful headline slot.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Regardless of their music they are a bona fide headline status band and enough people like them to make it a successful headline slot.

[MJMilz14]

Dave the Hedgehog claim's Muse are pretentious (which they probably are) with 4 pages or so of the most pretentious bullshit ive ever heard.

No offence of course, just the way I see it

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Dave the Hedgehog claim's Muse are pretentious (which they probably are) with 4 pages or so of the most pretentious bullshit ive ever heard.

No offence of course, just the way I see it

[metallimuse]

*sigh*

No...

You're focusing on the incidentals and ignoring the larger picture.

Nobody doubts Matt Bellamy's abilities - I just think he uses them in an entirely self-serving manner, and in doing so he deliberately puts a barrier between him and the fans who just want him to crack on with some songs instead of having to stand there and put up with yet another intolerable guitar or piano w*nk. The lack of emotion comes from the meticulous and calculated approach he takes to developing his songs, and the fact that years and years of soul destroying practice (that he's clearly had) have taken away any real feeling in his music to the point where everything he does sounds like it's being played by a robot.

Matt Bellamy's problem is that he's a muso and as is often the case in rock music, some things are more important than ability. It just seems that nobody told him that.

[Joe-]

They did write Exogenesis, took them years to do that. Dunno how you could think no passion was involved in that.

For the first time ever, I'm going to have to disagree with you Dave

Edited January 18, 2011 by Joe-

[Dave The Hedgehog]

They did write Exogenesis, took them years to do that. Dunno how you could think no passion was involved in that.

[RichieParf]

Well, that's what I mean - "Exogenesis: Symphony Pt.........." *snores*

What kind of self-absorbed muso w*nker would put terminology from classical music as a suffix to any rock song - as if anybody who isn't trying to be an intellectual gives a flying f**k - would think doing such a thing is a good idea? We're talking 'Close to the Edge' by Yes here - this is proper Prog. Rock territory, and let me say, I'd rather be in Moss Side than the world Muse are trying to re-discover because there's no excuse for that sort of excess in the world of music.

And years to write a song? Years? Really? I'm not going to reward people with an applause if they speak down to me by telling me I should give a f**k about how many different superficial special effects are in a song, or how it evokes the interstellar love triangle between Jupiter and Altair's projection path through digital beeps - or whatever post-modern, David Icke, mad motherf**ker concept they try to concoct next.

Muse are a shit band.

[Joe-]

Plug in baby is amazing in a stadium.

If they could play that over and over I'd go watch at Reading.

None of the new album plz

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Its called a symphony because its got an orchestra in it.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Honestly though, everything they do is just so bloody unneccesary, and to only make things worse, to top it all off they roll in a f**king symphony orchestra? The only thing worse than an orchestra in Rock music is bagpipes, and you can rest assured that Matt Bellamy will move any mountain he can to put them into a song if it means that it evokes images of some Highland scene of blue-painted Smurf warriors attempting to behead immortals - because that's the sort of pretentious sod he is.