No Muse?

[kev1664]

Yeah you're right they do think of it more as an opera than a gig. I mean if you like muse and want to see that sort of stuff go to a muse gig. But if they were to play a no gimmick, career spanning set full of the classics from older albums and not a 'the resistance' heavy set I think that they could be a very shrewd booking indeed.

I would prefer someone else having seen muse at their own gig only last year, along with the fact that muse have been everywhere in the last few years.

But if they are headlining I'm sure I can make the best of the situation, plus we don't know who will be on the other stages. FR, NME/radio 1/lockup or dance.

[thetime]

But if they were to play a no gimmick, career spanning set .

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I used to be obsessed with muse for the first 2 albums, did a whole skunk anansie tour just because muse were supporting them.

saw them well over 40 times but they seem to be more bothered with the stage production and liek you said the solos rather than get the songs out.

[Harry91]

The main problem I have with Muse is that listening to their music instantly creates a barrier between them and their audience. Like, most people who are fans of rock music are conscious of the power of the guitar and so feel drawn to playing it or trying to learn to play it to a certain degree. So, when you pick up a guitar for the first time hoping to play what Matt Bellamy plays, you slowly come to the realisation that doing what he does involves sleeping with the guitar mummy and daddy got you instead of the horse riding lessons, and playing it for an unnecessarily and unhealthily tedious amount of time that you don't really have to spare.

Music that's good should be all about accessibility and Muse simply don't have that - they have the instrumental ability but they don't have the spirit. I mean, I've been playing guitar for close to 15 years now. I can't (and won't) play a single song by Muse but I could write, produce, record and distribute a 10 hour version of Louie, Louie from my bedroom with no money if I wanted to, and what's amazing about that is that other people could do exactly the same thing. They can't with Muse, and that's what sucks about them.

[thetime]

What a warped view on it all.

[Dan R]

Tbh I really like Muse and not quite sure why there's so much hate for them

I don't want them to play cos they are over played and I do think their last album was a bit pretentious

Live I know they're light show is a major part of it but I don't why people say they're static on stage

How much can a band move around when they're playing instruments and singing into a mic?

Also, I don't know any other band around at the minute thats seems to have such a broad appeal

[Dave The Hedgehog]

What a warped view on it all.

[Yellow_Fellow]

You've played guitar for 15 years but can't play Supermassive Black Hole or Stockholme Syndrome?

Bull, you've either been playing Smoke on the Water over and over or you're just unable.

For reference, this is what you can't do.

(Supermassive Black Hole)

Stockholme Syndrome)

Edited January 17, 2011 by Yellow_Fellow

[Dave The Hedgehog]

You've played guitar for 15 years but can't play Supermassive Black Hole or Stockholme Syndrome?

[Yellow_Fellow]

Your ignorance prevents your ability to play from progressing, that's hilarious.

Rather childish really, "hurr durr i can't do it so it's shit" - Muse are operatic for the most part, denote that operatic is not a term representative of quality, so stop stating facts based on that. In that same point, a lot of their songs aren't, Soldiers Poem etc.

Edited January 17, 2011 by Yellow_Fellow

[jump]

Haven't Muse since Absolution decide not to write songs based on how to play them live anymore?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Your ignorance prevents your ability to play from progressing, that's hilarious.

[Yellow_Fellow]

You seem to think Bellamy plays particularly fast... I think the fastest he ever plays is in the New Born solo and that's to extenuate the frantic feel. He really isn't amazing. He's got flair though.

[adustlandfairytale]

I do like Muse but they where disappointing at T in the Park last year and looked like they where going through the motions.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

You seem to think Bellamy plays particularly fast... I think the fastest he ever plays is in the New Born solo and that's to extenuate the frantic feel. He really isn't amazing. He's got flair though.

[Yellow_Fellow]

No, I don't think he plays exceptionally fast - although I'm sure he's dying to. He's not a guitar shredder. What he is, is a show off, and he uses his ability - not to really prove a point, or to go anywhere and influence the millions with a wholly unique style or sound, but just for the sake of putting a guitar solo here or there when the music doesn't really need it.

If Muse did a version of Louie, Louie, it would be bloated, pretentious and choc full of a million different ridiculous ideas on how it's best to change the song using the original foundation laid by The Kingsmen. My counter to that would be stopping them midway through their 14th guitar solo to question why they feel the need to try and fix something when it isn't broken.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

He has a musical ability.

He is in a musical group.

He is to use his ability in said group.

I don't understand what I'm missing here.

[Yellow_Fellow]

You'd rather it was just your basic song structure then.. nothing different or special about it?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

You'd rather it was just your basic song structure then.. nothing different or special about it?

[Yellow_Fellow]

I disagree that it's devoid of soul or emotion. Entirely.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

No, I don't think he plays exceptionally fast - although I'm sure he's dying to. He's not a guitar shredder. What he is, is a show off, and he uses his ability - not to really prove a point, or to go anywhere and influence the millions with a wholly unique style or sound, but just for the sake of putting a guitar solo here or there when the music doesn't really need it.

[hazzamid11]

Can see where people are coming from, but personally i think theyre great, the two times ive seen them they were awesome, the second time i wasnt listening to them at all, yet they still blew me away. The more recent album wasnt great but had some good tracks on, but showbiz, absolution and origins of symmetry are all fantastic albums, play the vast majority of them plus a few of the more recent hits, and youve got yourself a good set. Citezens Erased stll remains as probably one of the greatest songs ive seen live.

Edited January 17, 2011 by hazzamid11

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I disagree that it's devoid of soul or emotion. Entirely.

[RichieParf]

Soul, dear boy, is being able to sit down in a studio and not be able to finish singing your own lyrics because of how painful they are. Soul is being able to convey all of your innermost personal feelings into a form of expression - not in the hope that people join you in a good old fashioned singalong but because you're trying to get them out of your own personal Hell. Soul is being able to stand up in front of your mates and play 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for the first time, smiling the whole way through.

With Muse, everything is cold, meticulous and calculated. You can just tell that when they sat in the studio, Matt Bellamy is the type of boring c**t who'd painstakingly weep with egotistical joy over every little last pre-bend and every little bit of harmonic resonance in his songs, and then quite happily tell you about it and explain why it's sooooooo important - even if most ordinary people out there didn't notice - all the while twiddling with the tone knobs on his mountainous landscape of effects pedals. There's no soul in his music; just a load of teacher-taught histrionics that says absolutely f**k all about anything and speaks to nobody except the few uninteresting sods that go to his ridiculous gigs.

[Joe-]

I like 'em, just seen them a few times and not so bothered if they do not play.

I love them live though.