stuartbert two hats Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I agree with Tommy on this one. You may class it as a joke but then so does the next person and the one after that, and it eventually just grinds you down. Losing my sense of humour over a joke, no way. Becoming tired of f**kwits, yes. Not calling you a f**kwit btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 aye, there's no real difference between being black and being ginger. neither can be decided by a person. i imagine in a decade or so, it will be universally frowned upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukslim Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 No offence to gingers, blacks, asians (east or west) or to anyone else, but I find many of them very attractive. Er, not sure why that would be offensive, come to think of it. (What was offensive about the original comment was the "box ticking" element) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 aye, there's no real difference between being black and being ginger. neither can be decided by a person. i imagine in a decade or so, it will be universally frowned upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I read that as being ginger or black been frowned upon in a decade or so. Are you planning camps or just push them into the sea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 think the sea will be the cheaper option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasto'newbie' Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Are people genuinely comparing calling someone a ginger to calling someone a nigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the gingers will inherit the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_dog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I'm ginger and I shag my right hand every night, does that count?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Are people genuinely comparing calling someone a ginger to calling someone a nigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Are people genuinely comparing calling someone a ginger to calling someone a n*****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_dog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Are people genuinely comparing calling someone a ginger to calling someone a nigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 well what's the difference? poking fun at a black person who was born black and has no choice in the matter poking fun at a ginger person who was born ginger and has no choice in the matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 no. but would people stop using that word. unlike other swearwords, the use of it alone is offensively. and its very difficult to offend me. it doesn't need to be directional. it just has offensive connotations and i'd like it if people would stop using it so casually cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the difference is that ginger is just a hair colour, and the n word has a lot of negative racist connotations inherently associated with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 i keep on trying to reply to this to put it to rest but i shocked at the levels of ignorance that people keep displaying on the subject. the n word is associated with the history of the slave trade. imagine how you would feel if you had that in your genealogical past and people used a word to remind you of it and also to illustrate how much they demonstrated power over your race. i am white british, but use of the n word or ignorant devaluing of it is out of order. if anything i think we sometimes need to take a step back and be ashamed of the racist history that made our country so rich and present days lives so comfortable. am i being unreasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_dog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the n word is only offensive if its meant to be, otherwise it just means black person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the n word is only offensive if its meant to be, otherwise it just means black person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 i keep on trying to reply to this to put it to rest but i shocked at the levels of ignorance that people keep displaying on the subject. the n word is associated with the history of the slave trade. imagine how you would feel if you had that in your genealogical past and people used a word to remind you of it and also to illustrate how much they demonstrated power over your race. i am white british, but use of the n word or ignorant devaluing of it is out of order. if anything i think we sometimes need to take a step back and be ashamed of the racist history that made our country so rich and present days lives so comfortable. am i being unreasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_dog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 completely incorrect. please please read up on what you are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 so does black have a negative connoatation? so it's fine for me to call someone a black bastard if not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasto'newbie' Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The differences are huge, can't be arsed to go into them. They are far too obvious (stopping and searching of black people, inherent racism in society, stereotypes about crime, violence etc) for me to think you are being serious. If you're that concerned shave your head or dye your hair. Blimey, I was born with a ridiculously handsome face and get grief for it every day.. You dont hear me complaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysundae Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 But a discussion about a word is putting value on it, not devaluing it. I don't often get angry but I think you need to get down off your horse. I take great offence at been called ignorant!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_dog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The differences are huge, can't be arsed to go into them. They are far too obvious (stopping and searching of black people, inherent racism in society, stereotypes about crime, violence etc) for me to think you are being serious. If you're that concerned shave your head or dye your hair. Blimey, I was born with a ridiculously handsome face and get grief for it every day.. You dont hear me complaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 that is a bizarre question. obviously not, no that is not ok. but it wouldn't be ok to call someone a white bastard either, if it was intended to demean or alienate them in the midst of a society which was predominantly black. but the n word does have separate connotations. it is effectively like using a word associated with the holocaust to demean a jewish person. i hate to say such a horrible thing but i'm trying to illustrate a perfectly reasonable point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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