PEARL JAM

[pinback]

No, I just think you're boring mate.

Edited August 15, 2006 by pinback

[Cultseeker]

Any proof for that? At all? Because I would have thought the opposite, with massive Pearl Jam fans buying more than one, people who would not normally buy live albums wanting a memento of the gig they attended...

[Paulaviki]

Heavens, you're being literal there! And why the face, I'm beign civil aren't I?

[pinback]

The face was because your making out Olivavu said PJ never do anything to make money which is rubbish, and you know it is.

And yes your being civil, but others aren't the same sadly.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

But by your rationale, these people would be doing that regardless, only from a less sophisticated source. However, these people do not represent the majority of potential buyership.

The immense cost that has gone into creating these CD's will not recieve the income of 72 seperate cd's as the vast majority of the fan base will invariably buy one particular CD. That one being mainly the Seattle date as it is the longest, alternatively a personal choice of specific venue or favoured track list.

How can this be bad, and how can they profiteer so grossly from such an exercise?

[Olivavu]

No he didn't, and your esteemed colleague is the least civil of anyone posting in this thread at the mo.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

That cap sits so neatly on your head.

[Cultseeker]

It was a facetious comment yes, but I was referring to this live CD thing. I like good quality live recordings, but the charity/goodness of the heart argument is weak and based on a blind love for PJ and not much else. If Franz Ferdinand did the same thing, then they'd be getting slagged off for profiteering. It was the hypocrisy of the argument that bothered me more than anything else. PJ can release 1,000 live albums for all I care - I still won't buy any.

[Paulaviki]

No he didn't, and your esteemed colleague is the least civil of anyone posting in this thread at the mo.

[Cultseeker]

That's not proof, you are still operating under the assumptions that:

a. these CDs cost (considerably) more to produce/distribute/etc. than one normal PJ album (including stuff like advertising budget, promotional travel etc.)

b. no-one bought more than one

[pinback]

That's so presumptuous.

'Charity/goodness of the Heart', 'Franz Ferdinand would get slagged', 'Blind love', 'Hypocrisy'. Where did you pick this drivel up from? I certainly know where you are coming from and where you are going, but how you get there, I have no idea.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

Cultseeker aren't civil to you...Shame Neil has better things to do then keep banning you everytime you register under another stupid name.

[pinback]

Yes he did, and he said in his post above he did.

Edited August 15, 2006 by pinback

[Cultseeker]

Two out of three aint bad, I suppose

I would suggest that you are having a defensive reaction to something I hae said which is pretty accurate.

[Paulaviki]

Cultseeker's perfectly civil to me, Ollie (it's my pet name for him) fills up the "pointless insults in lieu of actually engaging with a debate quota", which I see you have picked up.

Edited August 15, 2006 by Paulaviki

[pinback]

And I'm not suprised Olivavu and Cultseeker aren't civil to you, because all you have done since joining efestivals is try to de-rail any topics they post in back to the pathetic arguments and name calling you started when you joined, and you wondered why you were banned so many times.........its pretty obvious to most people. Shame Neil has better things to do then keep banning you everytime you register under another stupid name.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

And your criticisms in that post could be applied to many people here also. Certain people who aint a million miles away

[Paulaviki]

I think that's well harsh. My secret lover Nora is not the only one posting in this thread to have recieved some kind of ban/warning - it's three of us by my counting, so many people sail close to the wind...

[pinback]

Oh for f**ks sake you really are an idiot aren't you. Your the one who constantly derails threads into arguments, and you have done since you joined.............this thread was back on topic nicely until you joined in again, unlike you Pinback has the ability to join threads without being a twat, why don't you try it for a change.

I think a quick read of your posts under your various names, proves my point should anyone be inclined to waste their time reading what this loser posts.

[Paulaviki]

/index.php?showtopic=67338&st=0&p=1431979&#entry1431979">Certain people, eh?

And not so secret now, eh pinback?

[Pope Nora XXVI]

a. Yes I am.

[Paulaviki]

These posts are quite aggressive and I can only think they refer to something that's happened earlier that I've missed - I don't really think the Pope was being out of order in this discussion about PJ and the live CDs (or 'Livejamgate' as it shall be known from now on).

[Pope Nora XXVI]

thinking your clever.

[Cultseeker]

These posts are quite aggressive and I can only think they refer to something that's happened earlier that I've missed - I don't really think the Pope was being out of order in this discussion about PJ and the live CDs (or 'Livejamgate' as it shall be known from now on).

[Paulaviki]

Hey, I apologised, the forum I normally post on, that's kinda fair game. Can't you move on, my love?