news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

Looking forward to seeing the snp comedy plans later today. 

I bet the whole of Scotland had wished they'd voted yes in 2014.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

wants to be like George Osbourne .... yay what a hero 

yeah, well the markets are in control now, and confidence has gone...Kwarteng/Truss have totally fucked us in the few weeks they were in power.

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I bet the whole of Scotland had wished they'd voted yes in 2014.

theyd have had bigger cuts than tory cuts and would be in a worse cost of living crisis.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, Neil said:

theyd have had bigger cuts than tory cuts and would be in a worse cost of living crisis.

oh no they wouldn't

[Neil]

28 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you mean a local councillor who was popular amongst local party members but labour hq didn't like?

if he's that popular he doesn't need the labour party to become mp.

[pink_triangle]

46 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe, but how is she replaced?

For all the talk of needing to get all the MPs to agree I don't think that's correct. If they can get 70 percent to agree they can whittle quickly to the 2 and get the second person to pull out. The precedent has been set when Leadson did this to allow May to become PM.

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

oh no they wouldn't

so you didn't understand that salmond lied, huge whoppers, worse grip of economics than truss and kwasi.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, Neil said:

if he's that popular he doesn't need the labour party to become mp.

errr...ok...

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

For all the talk of needing to get all the MPs to agree I don't think that's correct. If they can get 70 percent to agree they can whittle quickly to the 2 and get the second person to pull out. The precedent has been set when Leadson did this to allow May to become PM.

yeah, and I guess maybe Wallace is that person mostly likely to get widest support...

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Neil said:

so you didn't understand that salmond lied, huge whoppers, worse grip of economics than truss and kwasi.

they'd be a super scandi social democrat EU country full of sexy renewables and with a great future ahead of them. Maybe they could send us food parcels.

[Guest]

Ben Wallace didn’t want to be PM a few months ago as he didn’t want to put his family in the spotlight. 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

they'd be a super scandi social democrat EU country full of sexy renewables and with a great future ahead of them. Maybe they could send us food parcels.

renewables owned by private companies, not the SG. a massive deficit, that the EU will require the  SG to address. so huge tax rises or huge spending cuts.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Ben Wallace didn’t want to be PM a few months ago as he didn’t want to put his family in the spotlight. 

I'm sure he could be persuaded by the men in grey suits.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

errr...ok...

he claims he's popular. if he really  is he doesn't need the labour party.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

renewables owned by private companies, not the SG. a massive deficit, that the EU will require the  SG to address. so huge tax rises or huge spending cuts.

nah, they'd be able to borrow to invest, a new burgeoning EU economy, a bright star with Nicola Sturgeon showing herslef as a great international statesperson..out of a fucked UK led by neo-lib nutters, the laughing stock of the world.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

he claims he's popular. if he really  is he doesn't need the labour party.

there's this thing called democracy...

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

there's this thing called democracy...

which will get him voted to be mp, if he's as popular as he's claiming.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

nah, they'd be able to borrow to invest

a growth plan like truss's, more like the tories than ever!

invest in what? if it was that easy, we'd all be millionaires already.

snp have had 8 years since last ref and haven't come up with a growth plan yet.

 

 

[Neil]

17 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

nah, they'd be able to borrow to invest, a new burgeoning EU economy, a bright star with Nicola Sturgeon showing herslef as a great international statesperson..out of a fucked UK led by neo-lib nutters, the laughing stock of the world.

voting for indy would be a national act of self-harm, greater than brexit? sturgeon is your farage, and just as honest.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I'm sure he could be persuaded by the men in grey suits.

Possibly but if he couldn’t before then why now when the party are in a worse position?

[Guest]

I think it’ll be Sunak, he seems well positioned given his warnings in the summer and how well he did with MPs. 

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I think it’ll be Sunak, he seems well positioned given his warnings in the summer and how well he did with MPs. 

could be...although he didn't exactly get unanimous support from MPs back in July or whenever it was...

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

which will get him voted to be mp, if he's as popular as he's claiming.

he was trying to stand to be a Labour MP. He is a labour councillor and member and has local support and backing from two trade unions. He doesn't know why he was blocked, although suggests it was because he liked a Caroline Lucas tweet. He doesn't stand a chance as an independent and you know it. Maybe he has done something else that has upset Labour, but there doesn't appear to be a valid reason.

Edited October 16, 2022 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

could be...although he didn't exactly get unanimous support from MPs back in July or whenever it was...

and I expect would fuck off many in tory membership if the loser in leadership race ends up winning.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

could be...although he didn't exactly get unanimous support from MPs back in July or whenever it was...

It was pretty good support wasn’t it?