Justin Timberlake to headline?

[Gucci Piggy]

Explain your definition of credibility.

[daniel.k]

if you say so like. sure i could find plenty of people who would disagree with you (mainly the people who had the best time during The Script's set last summer or the 90% of Leeds fest who specifically avoided NIN) but opinions make the world go around

[Gucci Piggy]

But what sells more

[daniel.k]

Nah T and IOW have lots of embarrassing bookings, but several good ones to make up for it somewhat. For example, T had Kraftwerk and My Bloody Valentine; two great bookings.

[Pothuthic]

I'm not him, but one has critical acclaim, is very well respected within the music industry, and has a large base of dedicated fans. The other has Radio 2 DJ's playing their music and I'm pretty sure will never be mentioned again in ten years time.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Aye but one band's had a long career, putting in the hard yards, to work their way up lineups, releasing critically acclaimed music. One has done feck all except write a couple of albums of background music, that middle-aged folk stick on in the kitchen whilst cooking dinner (I think so anyway; when else do they get listened to?)

[daniel.k]

I'm not him, but one has critical acclaim, is very well respected within the music industry, and has a large base of dedicated fans. The other has Radio 2 DJ's playing their music and I'm pretty sure will never be mentioned again in ten years time.

[Gucci Piggy]

Every festival will have some embarrassing bookings, but that doesnt discredit the festival as a whole.

Great bookings is your opinion, stick them on main stage at V against Rudimental on 4music and we will see where the majority of the crowd go to

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Majority of people don't watch X Factor, barely a ninth of the population these days. Sorry to interrupt but I just hate anyone inflating Simon Cowell's ego. Sorry. As you were..

[Gucci Piggy]

Justin Biebers latest album had quite a bit of critical acclaim, doesn't make him anymore credible?

I'm happy to admit that half of the acts that play V are pretty shit, but doesn't stop it from being 'an embarrassment to festivals' seems one rule for one, one rule for another.

[Pothuthic]

Every festival will have some embarrassing bookings, but that doesnt discredit the festival as a whole.

Great bookings is your opinion, stick them on main stage at V against Rudimental on 4music and we will see where the majority of the crowd go to

[daniel.k]

Majority of people, though, watch The X-Factor, read The Daily Mail, and listen to Take That. The majority doesn't matter at all in terms of credibility/embarrassment.

If you're arguing that Rudimental are better than Kraftwerk and My Bloody Valentine then wow!!

[Com Truise]

Wow!!!

[Gucci Piggy]

I certainly arent arguing that rudimental are better than either of them, but if they were at V against rudimental they would have a small percentage of the crowds, so not a 'great booking' in V Terms

[daniel.k]

They formed 26 years ago and are still being talked about enough to sub one of the biggest festivals in the UK but okay.

Edited January 27, 2014 by daniel.k

[Com Truise]

26 years and they can sub, compared to The Script not needing 26 years.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Wow!!!

[daniel.k]

Aye, but that backs up the point. V, on the whole, is booking horrid lineups, so if a decent act were to play, they'd get no crowd.

[Gucci Piggy]

26 years and they can sub, compared to The Script not needing 26 years. Yeah NIN have been around for longer and have had success in their genre, but The Script have a wider fan base (I am guessing as 'the majority' listen to them and have them on in the kitchen) despite not being around as long. Longevity of a career doesn't always have to mean success

Edit: IF you say success is judged on fan base

[daniel.k]

I agree. Imagine saying that The Script are mainly listened to in the kitchen. Madness.

[Pothuthic]

Bit harsh. Okay they're pretty mainstream but they're not that bad..IMO

LOL cheers for the advice, I'll be sure to bear it in mind next time I think of criticising those music pioneers Goldie Lookin' Chain or Franz Ferdinand (both of whom I don't mind, incidentally, but they're hardly about to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)

[Gucci Piggy]

I think I've contracted AIDS.

[Gucci Piggy]

Don't diss Daphne and Celeste or Azealia Banks otherwise they'll drag out Paul McCartney and he will sing Hey Jude out of tune again :'(

More people watch Strictly to be fair

[Pothuthic]

I think I've contracted AIDS.

[Com Truise]

Don't diss Daphne and Celeste or Azealia Banks otherwise they'll drag out Paul McCartney and he will sing Hey Jude out of tune again :'(