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Windoze 7 newbie help

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I'm using an old Dell Optiplex desktop I cobbled together. Bought the chassis cheap, then added RAM, proc, hard drive etc after so it may not support Windows 8. Its only for home media use really. I have a network setup connected to a server in another room. It supports Win7 fine but I dont want to install 8 if it slows the network down. Which it may do.

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The metro interface in Windows 8 with live tiles is new... It wasn't in any other version of windows... So you are already talking from a bullshit prospective...

Could you have built similar things not native to the OS in the past. Of course you could, I have done, but having it built into the OS its extremely useful I feel.

But you saying its nothing new is just crazy talk.

As is your comment about management. Actually that was bordering of crazy,,, but I will just settle on uninformed...

push has been in the windoze OS for years. The only thing which is new is your realistion that it's there.

If any manager needs to micromanage their staff on a per-minute basis, they might as well sack those staff and do the job themselves. The whol point of management is that you are managing, not supervising.

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Can you say Why ?

I wouldn't argue a touch screen would make the whole experience better on a desktop or laptop... but without its still a big improvement on Windows 7. I think you will find most those reviewers are saying the experience would be enhanced with a touchscreen and not don't install unless you have one.

I have read about 20 reviews from some of the top guys and I haven't see one which said don't do it without a touch screen and I would be interested to see one that said that so I can unfollow them on twitter...

laugh.png ... if it's a view different to yours, it's wrong. PMSL. Fanboy, worse than any Apple fanboy. laugh.png

The 'why' is very simple, and repeated in every review i looked at. It's an OS that is designed for touchscreens, and without a touchscreen it's clunky to use and worse than windows7 from a usability point of view.

As I wanted an OS for a desktop and every review I read warned me away from buying it for a desktop, I went for Windows 7 - when the plan prior to reading those reviews was to go for windows 8 ... I'd deliberately waited until now for the very reason of buying windows 8.

Pleasingly tho I can create and test windows 8 apps on my PC running windows 7, so I'm able to take myself in the right direction for the future for when I get there. :)

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Dare lord... Who said anything about micromanaging staff... I said Data... Not staff....

but any manager who needs minute by minute data is not a manager. Successful management is about the company being able to run smoothly when the manager is not there.

Minute by minute 'management' is not management but supervision.

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3, I work in a industry at the moment which is all about push technology and the need to have live, accurate data push to managers screens as x,y and z happens.

Dare lord... Who said anything about micromanaging staff... I said Data... Not staff....

then they're managers by title only, and actually manage nothing except their own task. :lol:

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Stick to your website mate... Management clearly involves some level of supervision of staff and markets... Neither mean your staff can't live without you being around... Neither mean you can't get other people to cover your supervision roles...

Your just arguing for the sake of it and its boring...

yes, management clearlty does involve "some level of supervision of staff and markets...". :rolleyes:

But "some level" is not minute by minute as you said it was. Anything that requires minute by minute management is not a job that is being done by a manager.

You very specically said "accurate data push to managers screens".

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But the concept you can't use it without touch is laughable

I didn't say "can't use it".

I said that the reviews say that the windows8 interface doesn't work as well with a mouse as the old windows interface does.

Anyway, why is it called windows 8? Surely it should be called Tiles and not windows, seeing as it's tiles and not windows?

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I didn't say "can't use it".

I said that the reviews say that the windows8 interface doesn't work as well with a mouse as the old windows interface does.

Anyway, why is it called windows 8? Surely it should be called Tiles and not windows, seeing as it's tiles and not windows?

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You have clearly never worked in the city in finance for example...

I have. And those needing minute by minute data aren't the managers.

Since when was "management" only about people anyway ? Your view of the world is so narrow.

In this instance, ever since you said the word "managers" and not "management". :lol:

If you've been tripped up by your own choice of words, harange yourself and not me. If you've not tripped yourself up with your on choice opf words, just tell yourself that you're wrong. :)

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I found a handful... Most of them read as I thought they might... Either dated back in June when people where using the trail versions... Or recent and reading... Its scary and different and I don't like it... Well yeah, its not windows 7 smile.png

But the concept you can't use it without touch is laughable and reminds me of when Microsoft brough along the new ribbon feature in Office. Slammed on mass that one was, now I think you will struggle to find on person who wouldn't agree its is far superior to the old tiny icons...

Hey ho...

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