Antisocial behaviour

[Spindles]

I am saving up all my +1s and coming back here to give them to Tommmy.

[torquayjim]

We camped in campervan area E23 as we have done for years . It has the best view of Glastonbury IMO .As usual we made space so we did not hamper the views of the people on the slope behind us . On the Thursday morning we started to set up our communal gazebo when these Hooray Henrys pitched behind us started screaming that they had got complimentary tickets from Mr Eaves and he had promised them the best view of the festival and to take our gazebo down . After a few choice words and telling them we paid over 2 Grand and we would pitch were we wanted . They left making threats to get us all flung out . The funny thing was the gazebo had not even been put up when they started shouting and if they had waited 5 mins we would have moved it not to block there views . As it turned out they had no views for 2 days until we took pity on them and moved the gazebo 10 yards to the side on Saturday

[Spindles]

I wasn't aware the view was important. The view from my tent was a binbag containing 2 failed disposable bbq and the side of another tent. In fairness though, when I stood up and looked out I could see a hastily handmade sign pointing to gate E, a tree and a big flag with rochdale on it.

Best view of the year, frankly.

[jengeo]

I was walking to the toilets camped at the family field late one night. Some folks with a gazebo (around 4 tents) came back as I was walking through the middle of their camp (got lost with guide ropes and tents). Anyway, As I was walking through they huff at me and told me not to walk on their tent. I was at the 'middle' of the gazebo area, no where near their tents - and they had no kids - My opinion they should't been in that field .

Saying that we did have a wind break but it was close to the tent, that wouldn't made any difference if it was there or not, but being there actually made a natural path for buggys and trolleys to get past, especially as the tents across from us did the same thing .

Most folks, excluding the above, didn't mind you walking through their 'enclosed' camp' . They just wanted a party to sit together as a group - and why not.

Its not the gazebos its the people.

By the way I am drinking a brothers cider, yum

[Lubic]

I have no problem with Gazebo's really - they are ideal if you are in a group who spend a lot of time sitting round a campfire in the cold nights and rainy conditions like we would do at Leeds (not so much Glastonbury). Taping off areas is unnecessary though.

I don't have a problem with people saving spaces for their friends either, as long as they aren't taking up huge sections of fields to do so. Peoples festival experience shouldn't be negatively affected because they have to stay at the other side of the site to their mates as they were unable to get there earlier, often for genuinely good reasons.

I would however have a problem with anyone who attempted to pitch a tent bang in the middle of any small 'sitting space' we had left between our tents (as someone mentioned earlier). I would be thinking- you got here later than us, there's plenty of space in some of the other fields - go there.

[Spindles]

I am saving up all my +1s and coming back here to give them to Tommmy.

[In transit]

I don't see what the problem with gazebos is to be honest.

As over 30 of us go together each year. we put the big tents in a circle with the rest satelliting them. We then put a gazebo in the middle where we will be sitting each morning/evening. It can act as shelter from either sun or rain!

This was our gazebo at camp this yr >

http://s1111.photobucket.com/albums/h464/Stuart_Watson/?action=view&current=267950_10150713378825657_798480656_19618608_590710_n.jpg

Edited July 12, 2011 by In transit

[tommmy]

Pleased to say I managed to provide 3 +1s. If you have any spares, give them to Tommmy, he deserves them

[niceandfriendly]

Which is more anti-social? Taping off your area, or pitching your tent in the middle of what is quite obviously someone elses attempt to have a tiny area of communal space?

[mrtourette]

the anti social thing is trying to save some communal space, not pitching a tent in it. basically, don't try to save any space, that's not on. there's plenty of places around the festival to sit, don't waste precious camping space.

[swede]

You don't see what the problem with gazebos is?

So is the fact that Michael and Emily specifically ask you in the guide that is sent out with your ticket NOT to bring them not enough?

I guess it's just the difference between people who respect their neighbours and the festival and those who put their own enjoyment above everything else.

[niceandfriendly]

If space is really so much of an issue then why not have pre-set camping spaces marked in rows to ensure maximum usgae of space available? Camping is a big part of festivals and having tents in a circle or with some space outside to sit around with friends should be allowed. The camping areas shouldn't just be for sleeping when as soon as someone gets up they're expected to move to another area if they just want to sit around and chat to people.

[mrtourette]

Christ, everything has to be so black and white with you guys doesn't it? People should be able to chill outside of their tent and therefore have a small amount of space that isn't taken up by their actual tent. No that doesn't mean that they can rope off metres and metres of space and no it doesn't mean that they're all selfish, arrogant, land-grabbing capitalist pigs who want to own 'your land'. So yes, I agree that having a small anount of personal space should go hand in hand with pitching a tent and it should be taken as a given when turning up to a campsite that you can have this and should expect others to want this.

As I said, would you prefer it if the campsite was arranged into neat rows with spaces marked out and stewards directing people to camp in specific spaces in order to maximise space and ensire that nobody is taking up too much?

[iwalker]

I can't help but think none of this would be a problem if everyone didn't blindly pile into Pennards (or the other busy areas) and went to some of the quieter camping areas.

[ukslim]

Christ, everything has to be so black and white with you guys doesn't it? People should be able to chill outside of their tent and therefore have a small amount of space that isn't taken up by their actual tent.

[radish]

Hmmm. I have had to ask people to move their tent off of the entrance to mine just so I could get in to it, but other than trying to arrange our tents into a vague circle we've never bothered with gazebos or tape/string. There was one year (2000 I think) when we had a few tents in a circle big enough to make a decent fire in the middle. Woke the next morning to find somebody had pitched on top of the dying embers of the fire, melting their groundsheet in the process. Duh.

There is no 'owned' space at Glasto, or any festival come to that, so while I'm generally respectful of others property and don't purposefully damage anything, I will happily walk through/over/under tape, gazebos or whatever. Nobody's ever had a go at me for doing so, presumably as I don't do it with intent to malice or making a point; I'm just trying to get from A to B (or more often F or X, I don't have a great sense of direction). So, if anybody did have a go I'd probably say something, but until then I haven't had a problem with it.

[iwalker]

what do you mean "blindly pile into Pennards"..??

they (probably) want to be there for a reason

[rachmac]

The space around your tent is for more than just socialising - we cook breakfast every morning and you need space around your tent to do this (whether it's a bbq, gas stove etc). We always try to ensure our space in the centre isn't big enough for a tent to be put in - so we have some space to cook, sit, have a campfire, but we're not taking up extra space where people could be camping.

One year when me and my other half went on our own (2007, I think) we were in our tent waiting for a rain shower to finish and came out to find someone had put their tent basically on top of our entrance! Which we weren't very happy about as it made things quite tricky. I think some level of common sense in this area of looking at how neighbouring tents lie and making sure you're not causing them issues is something that should be considered wherever you're camping!

We weren't very happy to find, on taking our brand new tent down at Glastonbury this year, that one of our poles had been bent because the people behind us put their tent basically on top of ours and it was used as a rat run so obviously someone tripped over it! Luckily we've managed to bend it back!

[jamseyboy]

The space around your tent is for more than just socialising - we cook breakfast every morning and you need space around your tent to do this (whether it's a bbq, gas stove etc). We always try to ensure our space in the centre isn't big enough for a tent to be put in - so we have some space to cook, sit, have a campfire, but we're not taking up extra space where people could be camping.

One year when me and my other half went on our own (2007, I think) we were in our tent waiting for a rain shower to finish and came out to find someone had put their tent basically on top of our entrance! Which we weren't very happy about as it made things quite tricky. I think some level of common sense in this area of looking at how neighbouring tents lie and making sure you're not causing them issues is something that should be considered wherever you're camping!

We weren't very happy to find, on taking our brand new tent down at Glastonbury this year, that one of our poles had been bent because the people behind us put their tent basically on top of ours and it was used as a rat run so obviously someone tripped over it! Luckily we've managed to bend it back!

[rexclark]

Yes, because everyone else is there. Then the cycle continues.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

This is why I stopped tenting it....even when space was available I would find another tent trying to mate with mine. I even remember once waking up to find half a gazebo over the top of our tent so that when it drizzled the rain pooled before dripping all night...water torture! I dont want my own garden, fenced off with tape, barbed wire etc just the ability to actually get in and out of the bleeding tent!.....and thats why alternatives where sought.

[In transit]

Did you or any of your friends take any drugs at Glasto this year ?

I have only taken a gazebo once. It was a small one for 15-20 of us. The Thursday morning 6 of us (the only 6 that had arrived by then out of our group) had gone out to breakfast and came back in the rain to find 3 lads under our gazebo covering from the rain, we offered them all a seat, a can and a smoke. If they are used in the right way and people dont restrict OP's access I dont see the problem.

[formed a band]

Nope. Well I certainly didn't and neither did my close friends. I can't account for everyone in our party.

Of course gazebos aren't gratuitously offensive and they don't threaten the licence or anything, but you can't get away from the fact that they respectfully ask you not to bring them, and so anyone who does is putting their own selfish enjoyment above the festival and fellow festival-goers.

The whole point about Glastonbury is that there are so so few things they ask us not to do that when they do request something e.g. using toilets, no glass, leave no trace etc, it's usually for a good reason so I follow what they say.

[abdoujaparov]

Please climb out of Michael Eavis ' ass you creep. We take a small gazebo we bring it home

[formed a band]

Telling me to grow up , how tedious and preachy, I'm a little bored of people like you and your holier than thou attitude , as someone else said its not that black and white , ok so some people break a little rule about gazebos, if you or anyone else is following every rule to the letter then you are a liar.

Edited July 14, 2011 by formed a band