Hate the farm, leave all your shit behind

[AnnaGrant]

Even the Guardian is writing about the post Glastonbury mess left on site

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/07/festival-tents-landfill.

Really really wish I'd had the time to stay until Monday and have a sort through some of these abandoned tents. Could have subsidised my 2013 ticket.

[abdoujaparov]

Also I dont believe in global warmimng, I think its the earth taking a natural cycle.

Edited July 7, 2011 by abdoujaparov

[cejx]

Even the Guardian is writing about the post Glastonbury mess left on site

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/07/festival-tents-landfill.

Really really wish I'd had the time to stay until Monday and have a sort through some of these abandoned tents. Could have subsidised my 2013 ticket.

[AnnaGrant]

repaired link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/07/festival-tents-landfill?INTCMP=SRCH

[Reilly1912]

Lazy Lazy disrespectful cnuts. They should be f ucking banned. I'd be interested to see which demographic are the lazy bastards - as if I couldn't guess.

[cejx]

Your so liberal and understanding. True glasto spirit there. been going for years i bet?

[Reilly1912]

They were dropped.

[pie_and_a_pint]

Really really wish I'd had the time to stay until Monday and have a sort through some of these abandoned tents. Could have subsidised my 2013 ticket.

[pouxin]

Some people are totally clueless. I was talking with a friend of a friend who had been this year (his first one) and mentioned how gross it was that people pissed all over the farm, and he was like: "well, it's a festival, you have to expect it, they must make 60 million pounds profit, they have plenty of money for the clean up" etc. He seemed to totally fail to understand that once you piss in a stream it is in that water source all the way to the coast, killing fish, and damaging crops and livestock on other peoples' farms who have nothing to do with the festival. It does't matter how much money you chuck at the problem, environmental damage is often irreversible (in the short term at least). Such an irresponsible attitude. He also had a big thing about how urine is natural - not when you're living off burgers, vodka and NDMA it isn't!!!

[geebus]

Came back from Sonisphere yesterday evening.

If anything, you'd expect the rubbish around the arenas to be worse. It's harder to return to your tent (though possibly not much overall, I've always been in Guest for Sonisphere so not sure of the logistics of public camping.) They only allow solid fuels for cooking however. Overall, can see more people buying from stalls.

There's a lot less bins - just a few 1100 litre wheelie bins.

There was no 'message' about not littering

However, over all, the site seemed to be cleaner.

People dropped litter where they were mostly - did see a full wheelie bin, but that seemed to be from a stall.

The cup deposit scheme meant that any dropped cups didn't stay on the floor for long.

If they could make the same work for plates etc (obviously less likely due to the mess), there would have been very little rubbish at all.

[Frogger_Queen]

It seems at Latitude, they have a "taxi" scheme. They use golf buggies to transport you and all your guff between campsite and car park, for a small fee - 2 quid per person I believe. What do people think? Could a similar thing work at Glasto? Maybe a tractor and trailer combo would be better suited for the farm.

I just wondered if people would be more likely to take home what they brought with them, if it wasn't such a hard slog come Monday morning. I know that shouldn't be an excuse and it should come down to taking responsibility for yourself, but as some people seem incapable of that, maybe it'd be a good idea to find a solution to go with it, rather than fighting against it. Just a thought really, to see if anyone thinks how and if it could work.

I personally take everything home, did two trips to the car with my trolley, so it didn't seem like such a task carrying everything in one go. More time consuming, yes, but worth it to know that I hadn't added anything else to the already monumental task of cleaning up the site.

[ukslim]

I just wondered if people would be more likely to take home what they brought with them, if it wasn't such a hard slog come Monday morning. I know that shouldn't be an excuse and it should come down to taking responsibility for yourself, but as some people seem incapable of that, maybe it'd be a good idea to find a solution to go with it, rather than fighting against it. Just a thought really, to see if anyone thinks how and if it could work.

[geebus]

There's usually people on pedal/electric cycle cart things on the opening days, but usually not on the Monday, probably due to having also partied away all the earnings from the first days.

I usually have a push-bike trailer around and have many times been offered money to move stuff for people (but always been busy with my own/friends stuff), if needs must, would consider doing it for money, but not sure I'd find the impetuous to be up early on Monday either!

Early in the 00s you could actually drive your car to your tent at Reading as the parking was in a similar area, and they were fine with you taking a diversion that way. The site was much clearer in those days too.

Oh and less stuff - make the food and drink cheaper? Though sadly I don't think that's the problem, more that cheap Chinese labour means cheap consumer goods, which therefore means 'disposable' to most people.

Edited July 11, 2011 by geebus

[ukslim]

Early in the 00s you could actually drive your car to your tent at Reading as the parking was in a similar area, and they were fine with you taking a diversion that way. The site was much clearer in those days too.

[Frogger_Queen]

I think the capacity of any kind of golf buggy scheme would be too small to make any kind of dent in the problem. We're talking people who can't even be arsed to dismantle their tents. How long would they be willing to wait for a buggy? Sorry to be negative.

Here's a thought -- how can we persuade people to bring less stuff in? The less you bring in, the less you need to carry out.

[Aragorn]

certianly agree with you in the global warming issue billyfenlon, whilst I have no doubt we are not doing our world any favours with our living style, to say we are totally at fault for global warming is utter bollox in my opinion. We are merely going through a cycle of climate change that happens to be of a warmer nature and I have no doubt that in 100 - 200 years time its quite likely we will go through a period of cooling

[geebus]

There is, of course, an obvious solution to this....

[ukslim]

We are merely going through a cycle of climate change that happens to be of a warmer nature and I have no doubt that in 100 - 200 years time its quite likely we will go through a period of cooling

[abdoujaparov]

to say we are totally at fault for global warming is utter bollox in my opinion. We are merely going through a cycle of climate change that happens to be of a warmer nature and I have no doubt that in 100 - 200 years time its quite likely we will go through a period of cooling

[Bender]

This.

WE are the festival, the people, we make it what it is every year, the fact that people complain that the festival bring it on themselves by not providing bin bags easy enough...I mean, get a grip: (1) Take bin bags with you, duh! Of course you need bin bags (2) I am 100% certain that if you had walked to a campsite crew caravan and asked they would have provided one, or an info point or welfare. Short of expecting that they would individually walk around the festival from sunday onwards with bin bags asking people to please tidy up what is it you want them to do?

Edited July 11, 2011 by Bender

[Aarron B]

I'm guilty of leaving my tent. My tent bag ripped en route in, no way on earth I was carrying a tent and bedrooms with nothing to carry it with aswell as my clothes, airbed, chair etc...

[mikeb]

Edited July 11, 2011 by mikeb

[neilloggie]

but noone is saying that human behaviour alone is changing the climate...as you say, the climate is cyclical. But what 98% of climatologists agree on is that human behaviour is leading to climate change. If you're in the 2% of scientific dissenters, I'm also looking forward to seeing your peer-reviewed, published research

[idontgetoutmuch]

I've been pondering as to why the litter seems to be getting worse each year. Has the demographic of the punters changed so much?

Or is there a direct correlation between the litter and THE CHAIR BRIGADE?

My belief is that once they sit in them then their arses are glued! It is impossible for them to move to the bins. Of course they will put half eaten food on the floor, as they are never going to sit on the floor.

Just a thought :-)

[cejx]

I'm guilty of leaving my tent. My tent bag ripped en route in, no way on earth I was carrying a tent and bedrooms with nothing to carry it with aswell as my clothes, airbed, chair etc...