UK Census 2011

[worm]

Not the fact we have fossils, no. But the changes we have observed in fossils collected from different periods of history is evidence, as is the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms, the geographic distribution of related species, and the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations

all evidence of evolution. It doesn't prove the theory of evolution, but its evidence that the theory is correct.

Edited March 22, 2011 by worm

[worm]

What you're effectively saying is that anything you've not first said yourself is to be distrusted, because only you can be right.

[eFestivals]

I'll ask again, what is the grounding difference between believing in evolutionary theory and a God based religion if there is evidence for neither?

I'll ask again, what is the grounding difference between what I've said and what you're determined to try and provoke an argument over?

[worm]

I'll ask again, what is the grounding difference between what I've said and what you're determined to try and provoke an argument over?

[eFestivals]

It's me pointing out the contradiction in your argument, as I'm failing to read it properly.

Corrected for you.

You've said that believing in God has no intellectual validity because there is no empirical evidence.

I said nothing of the sort, nothing even remotely like that.

The error is all yours. The error, as ever, is down purely to your very poor ability to read properly.

[philipsteak]

So, are we going to write "Stop Selling Arms" somewhere on our census returns or not then?

[Ed209]

No it isn't. It's evidence of different fossils and similarities between genes and chemical dispositions.

You believe that it's evidence of evolutionary theory being correct. As I've already said, there's evidence to the contrary, such as there not being the time to have undergone such changes from one animal to the next.

You have faith that evolutionary theory is the best guiding principle to interpret and explain these facts, just as once people believed that the world being flat explained the ends of the earth.

[worm]

So "my evidence" for evolution isn't allowed, but "your evidence" against evolution is?

Edited March 22, 2011 by worm

[llcoolphil]

I know of a few examples where it's been very effective...

my wife was taught by nuns at a catholic school. Counselling and years of knowing how f**ked up it was has still left her a damaged person

[worm]

If there was evidence against the theory of evolution that was more appealing to the scientific community than the evidence for, the scientific community would have rejected evolution.

[llcoolphil]

Yes. I think worm might not be comfortable with that though and tomorrow neil wont be happy with worm's understanding. Im predicting an exchange on truths - probably with some culturally defined postmodernism for old times sake. You heard it hear first

[worm]

The error is all yours. The error, as ever, is down purely to your very poor ability to read properly.

[worm]

I hope i do this well with my euro millions numbers on friday

Edited March 22, 2011 by worm

[eFestivals]

Not sure about that, but I did like the idea of making it as hard as possible for them to process the forms. still answer everything they ask, but make it so they can't be machine read. Cross things out, not write too clearly, make the bar codes illegible, things like that, so it ups their costs.

if you like screwing up automated systems, a great one to do is to run a magnet over each page of your cheque book, across the account number and sort code. Seeing as the banks don't want to give back the money they stole, they might as well make less profit by doing more work.

[eFestivals]

I hope i do this well with my euro millions numbers on friday

what, lose?

You predicted "an exchange on truths". What you got was an exchange over worms very poor reading.

[eFestivals]

I'm referring to this.............

So what you're referring to is an argument you want to have, that I'm not interested in - as I've already told you. It's got f**k all to do with anything I wanted to or have contributed to this thread.

How many f**king times?

[eFestivals]

You got your numbers wrong Chief.

I was happy with that understanding, there's been no mention of postmodernism other than by you, and Neil's not unhappy with my understanding, he just doesn't understand.

I did mention truth once though, but you don't get owt for one out of five.

I understand perfectly thanks.

You're trying to pick an argument, and I'm not biting - which you've yet to understand.

If you've got an argument you want to have, start a thread about it yourself and don't hijack threads that are f**k all to do with the argument you want to have.

[worm]

So what you're referring to is an argument you want to have, that I'm not interested in - as I've already told you. It's got f**k all to do with anything I wanted to or have contributed to this thread.

How many f**king times?

[llcoolphil]

what, lose?

You predicted "an exchange on truths". What you got was an exchange over worms very poor reading.

[eFestivals]

I predicted a ruck between you two and at £120m , i'll settle for a bit right!

ten quid for three numbers at most.

[eFestivals]

Yet here you are arguing about not wanting to have an argument.

A simple 'not interested' would have sufficed.

As I've already said, how many f**king times? You can't read even the simplest things.

Another - and continual - d-word failure by worm. Oh dear. What a f**king moron.

[Ed209]

Absolute rubbish. Did the Church relinquish its power over the scientific method before the Renaissance? Did the upper classes relinquish their power over it before the enlightenment?

Edited March 22, 2011 by Ed209

[worm]

As I've already said, how many f**king times? You can't read even the simplest things.

Edited March 22, 2011 by worm

[philipsteak]

if you like screwing up automated systems, a great one to do is to run a magnet over each page of your cheque book, across the account number and sort code. Seeing as the banks don't want to give back the money they stole, they might as well make less profit by doing more work.

[eFestivals]

Yet here you are still arguing over f**k all.

The one after the argument is you, which is why you tried to start it with irrelevances.

If it's such an interesting subject, start a thread on it yourself, and then you get to have that discussion. Or is it just that you prefer to troll?