Sack Trucks. The definitative answer and solution.

[Sawdusty surfer]

To anyone interested here are my thoughts on sack trucks ,one of my fav topics, along with which power tool(blue bosche), which chainsaw(huski) and which trailer (ifor williams) along with various other facinating anorakisms

anyway, i have been abusing sack trucks almost daily for over a decade , often grossly overloaded over all sorts of terrain. I've also been to several Glastonburys. I think that qualifies me to comment.

The type we always use are these

the one in the pic has been slightly modded. extra long axle made of high tensile steel(slightly bent now) and double wheels. Modified because we kept folding the wheel rims. As standard they are fine upto 150kg, or more over smooth ground.

unlike most sack trucks they can be operated onehanded pulling, the easiest way by far on rough ground. pushing a sack truck in front of you on lumpy stuff is a nightmare.

we pay about £22 quid for ours. bargain. whole spare wheel assemblies £5

inflate to 30psi and nip up the wheel nuts, they arrive loose

you will have a sack truck for life.

Honestly, i really have got the t shirt

Edited May 31, 2010 by jamesontheverge

[iammyowngiraffe]

Impressive we've only got a bog standard one from B&Q similar style

[wweerr208]

looks good, but were is the mud guard? to get rid of the farms clay soil

[asoldasglasto]

looks good, but were is the mud guard? to get rid of the farms clay soil

[mouth]

To anyone interested here are my thoughts on sack trucks ,one of my fav topics, along with which power tool(blue bosche), which chainsaw(huski) and which trailer (ifor williams) along with various other facinating anorakisms

anyway, i have been abusing sack trucks almost daily for over a decade , often grossly overloaded over all sorts of terrain. I've also been to several Glastonburys. I think that qualifies me to comment.

The type we always use are these

the one in the pic has been slightly modded. extra long axle made of high tensile steel(slightly bent now) and double wheels. Modified because we kept folding the wheel rims. As standard they are fine upto 150kg, or more over smooth ground.

unlike most sack trucks they can be operated onehanded pulling, the easiest way by far on rough ground. pushing a sack truck in front of you on lumpy stuff is a nightmare.

we pay about £22 quid for ours. bargain. whole spare wheel assemblies £5

inflate to 30psi and nip up the wheel nuts, they arrive loose

you will have a sack truck for life.

Honestly, i really have got the t shirt

[MikeyB37]

The type we always use are these

[laid back in the sun]

although your sack truck is awesome i must question your power tool range. as a self emplyed builder i wouldnt touch bosch with a barge pole. Festool are amazing and in mine and many of my colleagues views are the best. They are very expensive but when you have used there tools it is very easy to tell the difference and you really would never go back. not even to makita.

[Sawdusty surfer]

husqvarna chainsaws (and pretty much everything else they make bar stump grinders) are absolute garbage so i'll stick with stihl along with 99% of tree surgeons!

[laid back in the sun]

That's fighting talk!

but seriously,while Stihl are the tree surgeons choice, just about every chainsaw carver i know uses husqvarna and also any forestry workers. I suspect that this is because we need instant power. forestry workers (those that clear fell softwoods) work on a piece work rate and so need to fell as many as poss as quickly as poss.

My standard saws are 357xp,s i have a pair. They rev at upto 14,000 rpm. The sthil equivalent(MS 290) only 12,500. My huskys produce 4.4hp , the sthil only 3.8 hp. they both have exactly the same engine size.

horses for courses, i suppose.

i'd say the sthil is like a landrover and the husky is like an subaru impreza! both good in their own environment

i do actually have a couplke of sthils i do occasionally use, an 076 and the beast of all beasts an 909av. about 140cc. no chain brake and now discontinued.

and we cant use a wheel barrow for moving big sticks/sculptures. but then again builders would struggle carrying sanr with a sack truck!

[MEGABOWL]

why do you need instant power for carving? i've tried it myself with my ms200t and had no trouble at all, although a small nosed carving bar and carving chain would probably make it easier... anyway all that extra power is no good when they dont start which is a problem i've found with nearly every husqvarna machine i've used, probably down to poor compression in the cyclinder due to rubbish components and using a saw the size of a 909av (or any saw for that matter!) without a chain brake is totally mental!

[mouth]

Are you two conversing in some kind of different coded language?

[Sawdusty surfer]

why do you need instant power for carving?

partly because i don,t make many small delicate carvings and also because as i carve for a living i need to get it done asap.(i'm ashamed to admit that i spent 5 years as a "time and motion man" in an hellish north walian factory!)

i've tried it myself with my ms200t and had no trouble at all, although a small nosed carving bar and carving chain would probably make it easier...

we do use carving bars where appropriate.

anyway all that extra power is no good when they dont start which is a problem i've found with nearly every husqvarna machine i've used, probably down to poor compression in the cyclinder due to rubbish components

never (what never?....well, hardly ever!) have reliability probs.

and using a saw the size of a 909av (or any saw for that matter!) without a chain brake is totally mental!

Yes

[Sawdusty surfer]

i think there flirting......

[fdc]

Regarding the original post - i've actually asked the same thing elsewhere, but am interested to hear the verdict of such an advocate for this mighty sack truck

I've recently bought the same one, but am a bit concerned by the wheel pins, because they seem a bit flimsy, and seem to catch the wheel as it turns? Any suggestions on modding these? Also, with regards to

nip up the wheel nuts

[toooldtoknowbetter]

Great thread, this.

Don't understand a word of it, but it makes me want to go out and buy a chainsaw and learn how to use it.

Job done.

:¬)

[Sawdusty surfer]

Regarding the original post - i've actually asked the same thing elsewhere, but am interested to hear the verdict of such an advocate for this mighty sack truck

I've recently bought the same one, but am a bit concerned by the wheel pins, because they seem a bit flimsy, and seem to catch the wheel as it turns? Any suggestions on modding these? Also, with regards to

i'm not actually sure what this means

[Sawdusty surfer]

Don't understand a word of it, but it makes me want to go out and buy a chainsaw and learn how to use it.

:¬)

[mouth]

you might like this this thread then

/index.php?showtopic=144627&st=0&p=3238173&#entry3238173">http://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/index.p...p;#entry3238173

[LusciousLucy]

I bought one of the speed chainsaw competition creations in an auction in 07. The pair of owls on their perches, Plop the Baby Barn Owl and his Dad still live in my back garden (looking slightly worse for ware after the cat took to it as a scratching post!)

[laid back in the sun]

just to show that i DO swing both ways, here's me abusing a Sthil (hangs his head in shame, outed)

[MikeyB37]

I bought one of the speed chainsaw competition creations in an auction in 07. The pair of owls on their perches, Plop the Baby Barn Owl and his Dad still live in my back garden (looking slightly worse for ware after the cat took to it as a scratching post!)

[Sawdusty surfer]

some quality stihl porn ruined by that husqvarna face shield and ear defender combi, what a turn off!

[Sawdusty surfer]

are you the james whose mushroom was nicked i seem to remember. if you are awesome skills i'll have a walk thorugh and see what you do first hand if your in the greenfeilds again.

[bunter]

To anyone interested here are my thoughts on sack trucks ,one of my fav topics, along with which power tool(blue bosche), which chainsaw(huski) and which trailer (ifor williams) along with various other facinating anorakisms

anyway, i have been abusing sack trucks almost daily for over a decade , often grossly overloaded over all sorts of terrain. I've also been to several Glastonburys. I think that qualifies me to comment.

The type we always use are these

the one in the pic has been slightly modded. extra long axle made of high tensile steel(slightly bent now) and double wheels. Modified because we kept folding the wheel rims. As standard they are fine upto 150kg, or more over smooth ground.

unlike most sack trucks they can be operated onehanded pulling, the easiest way by far on rough ground. pushing a sack truck in front of you on lumpy stuff is a nightmare.

we pay about £22 quid for ours. bargain. whole spare wheel assemblies £5

inflate to 30psi and nip up the wheel nuts, they arrive loose

you will have a sack truck for life.

Honestly, i really have got the t shirt

[Sawdusty surfer]

husqvarna chainsaws (and pretty much everything else they make bar stump grinders) are absolute garbage so i'll stick with stihl along with 99% of tree surgeons!

Edited June 5, 2010 by jamesontheverge