Touts Debate

[saltybugger]

Trying to apply normal business principles to music events (or other cultural ones) is wrong, everybody knows it's a heavily distorted market with or without touts. If we were going to accept that some tickets are going to go at above face value then I think an official auction system on a certain percentage of tickets for an event wouild be better. This could be run by the normal primary ticketing companies so at least its out in the open and the profit could still go to bands, etc rather than middlemen.

[lofichic]

Yeah the fans, things happen people have to cancel

Up until a certain date

It wouldn't matter as you could sell it on?

[st00ka]

i have to admit touts who buy bulk tickets online, are good business men and they buy wisely on gigs which will sell out and they can make a profit on!

[lofichic]

Companies aren't allowed to buy up tickets, so don't know where you got that one from! we're talking about touts not the likes of seatwave etc!

my point is when people sell tickets for more then face value, they are only valuable as the person bidding on them wants them to be!!!

Like i missed out on the Led Zeppelin ticket lottery but to to me they are easily worth 10 times more then the 70 or 80 quid face value and i would have happily paid the 750 price tag on them!!! to whomever had a spare one!

Like i said in a earlier post the only way to curb people purposely going out there to buy more to make a profit is to get the law changed and concert organisers to change the terms and conditions on the ticket to prohibit the resale of tickets for more then face value!

You can do all the moaning you want you'll never change a thing, Glastonbury is an exceptional festival which goes to further lengths to stop this but many others don't give a shit cause they sold the tickets and made the profit!!!

So before going mad at touts get mad at the people who empower them, and the same people who could easily put an end to it!!!

Edited April 14, 2010 by lofichic

[lofichic]

Arms dealers are good business men the buy arms wisely and selll them to unstable tin pot dictators and bonkers rebels hell bent on causing mayhem and make a lovely profit.

[st00ka]

See, I'm sat on a bunch of tracer bullets, 'cause I'd bought them up thinking I'd get rid of them on gumtree to Iran but then I found out they'd managed to get hold of some at face value from Italy! Shafted.

[DougalMcGuire]

All this should help us realise what an absolute hero Michael Eavis is. I am sure he has stood against significant pressure to continue to develop Glastonbury in the way he has, and I'm thankful we have Emily Eavis to continue his work for years to come.

[Redwinevino]

Double post

Edited April 14, 2010 by Redwinevino

[Redwinevino]

I think the sucess of the glastonbury system and the comments for doing something about it warrants, how do you solve it then? Or do you not think its out of hand? What is actually your problem if your not going to sell on the tickets with a system that make sure you got the money you paid for the tickets back and not profit off someone elses work?

When you buy your ticket/pass off the balance there is little check box that asks if you wish to add insurance or not for £4.25 a ticket

[Rufus Gwertigan]

For smaller gigs I don't think its out of hand

Aye did that, I do think that they should extend the deadline to almost the week before the festival to return. But again I will say your comment about think of it as a holiday is a very very good point

Edited April 14, 2010 by Rufus Gwertigan