Emily Interview (gone)

[JodiB]

Dont get too excited !

Emily says the Full line up will be confirmed for them in about 2 weeks and it should'nt be too long after that that we get the "Big Announcement".

I posted the full interview here last night that is on another festival website and obviously I should'nt have because this morning it has gone. Sorry Neil if it offended you perhaps I was out of order. She also made a quote that I liked so I put it in my signature.

[eFestivals]

Emily says the Full line up will be confirmed for them in about 2 weeks and it should'nt be too long after that that we get the "Big Announcement".

That's very probably incorrect, unless Glasto have changed the terms of their agreements half-way thru the timeframe of those agreements.

Sorry Neil if it offended you perhaps I was out of order.

not your fault, but I've got VERY pissed off with the amount of spaming said website was doing on these forums, so they can f**k right off.

[neil_hill_1]

......... I liked so I put it in my signature.

[JodiB]

That's very probably incorrect, unless Glasto have changed the terms of their agreements half-way thru the timeframe of those agreements.

[eFestivals]

Which part ? That they don't have all the acts confirmed in 2 weeks. Or "should'nt be too long" after 2 weeks that we should get the big announcement?

the 2nd part.

It's very likely to be end of May/beginning of June as normal.

[JodiB]

the 2nd part.

It's very likely to be end of May/beginning of June as normal.

[Tugger2k]

Is it contractual then do you mean ?

[eFestivals]

Is it contractual then do you mean ?

It's certainly 'agreed', if not a full contract.

There's an amount of flexibility within it - as demonstrated when they released the line-up a month early a couple of years back. But I'll be very surprised if anything of substance is announced before then (the headliners might well be earlier, especially as they're out of the bag anyway .... my guess is when the next Q comes out for that).

[sidthecat]

I saw this piece yesterday and really like it. I also really like the publication that publish it as it give a fresh persepctive on festivals.

I check this forum every few days and have seen no evidence on here of spamming.

I can't understand why it has been taken down/banned/whatever.

we are all festival goers an we are all friends aren't we?

I think efestivals is being a bit harsh here....

[eFestivals]

I check this forum every few days and have seen no evidence on here of spamming.

I check these forums every few minutes, and have seen ample evidence of spmming - when I've removed those spams.

I can't understand why it has been taken down/banned/whatever.

we are all festival goers an we are all friends aren't we?

I think efestivals is being a bit harsh here....

Are they promoting eFestivals on their own site? Then why do you think that efestivals should promote them (but even if they did, it would be a VERY long way from any fair exchange, given the traffic levels)? Does Tescos have big signs up saying "shop at Sainsburys"?

This is a business. That is a business. My concern is about ensuring that I'm able to pay my staff each month, and not in giving a competitor free publicity just because this place is hugely more successful than they are.

If they were the friends you're claiming for them, they'd have made a friendly approach, and not spammed these forums very many times and then moaned about it to any who'll listen that we're being "unfair".

They *expected* efestivals to give them free advertising; if efestivals does that there is no efestivals, and no free advertising for them anyway.

Edited February 23, 2010 by eFestivals

[airds]

Which part ? That they don't have all the acts confirmed in 2 weeks. Or "should'nt be too long" after 2 weeks that we should get the big announcement?

She mentioned that most of the acts they asked to play said yes this year. "Should'nt be too long" could mean that it will be May/June before we see a full line up. We just don't know.

[worthyraver]

As I mentioned before in my post that was deleted, sorry Neil was just making a point that you proved quite nicely by deleting the post, however my point is thus:

Do not expect nor demand free speech on here, this is efestivsls.co.uk party, bandwidth and business, if you don't like that then post somewhere else.

[Langdale Wolf]

The way I see it - why SHOULD everything be announced so soon? Why ruin some surprises further down the line?

Surely Glastonbury's practise of not revealing the line ups until much nearer the festival is one of many things that makes it different to the other large festivals who announce their line ups very quickly?

[LondonTom]

The way I see it - why SHOULD everything be announced so soon? Why ruin some surprises further down the line?

Surely Glastonbury's practise of not revealing the line ups until much nearer the festival is one of many things that makes it different to the other large festivals who announce their line ups very quickly?

[Triton]

I check these forums every few minutes, and have seen ample evidence of spmming - when I've removed those spams.

[eFestivals]

What evidence of spamming? I've seen blatant Viagra, Chinese Nike etc spam that's been on this site for hours at a time, but I've never noticed spam from TFF or any of the other festival sites you've censored.

Just because you've not seen it doesn't prove anything about whether it's happened. It's happened, via two separate accounts, with both tracing back to a particular person whose purpose here is ONLY spamming, spamming, spamming.

In fact, if you do a backlink check (No, I don't mean use Google's back link checker which is crap) on said site, you'll find no evidence what so ever that they've spammed anywhere else.

I have the evidence of them spamming. They're spam posts.

Your 'evidence' is obviously cock.

I've done the same check on some of the other sites you've censored and they show the same lack of evidence. Is this how spamers operate these days, they only spam a single site that immediately removes their posts and not bother to spam elsewhere?

unless they're using a bot (which they're not), then spammers spam in the most effective places. And the most effective place in this instance is the most read festivals website: here.

All the sites I've noticed that have been censored do have one thing in common though, they often get an exclusives (Such as the Emily interview) that you don't have or publish festival news before you do. Perhaps this is just coincidental?

Oh do f**k off.

Spammers get banned. If they don't want to get banned then they shouldn't spam.

None of the tff spams have had anything that's 'exclusive' within them (tho they've claimed that they have).

If the reason you're censoring is that you're insecure about your forum members using other festival sites, that's your prerogative, but please don't insult our intelligence by telling us that the real reason is because they're spamming us, because that's clearly BS.

Oh do f**k off.

Spammers get banned. If they don't want to get banned then they shouldn't spam.

The only "insecurity" I have is about my ability to pay my staff. I help ensure that I can pay my staff by ensuring that any advertising is paid for.

There's a reason why this site is and remains the most popular. If you don't like this site being run in a fair and equitable manner for ALL people that post here then you're welcome to use other sites instead.

Edited February 23, 2010 by eFestivals

[sidthecat]

I check these forums every few minutes, and have seen ample evidence of spmming - when I've removed those spams.

Are they promoting eFestivals on their own site? Then why do you think that efestivals should promote them (but even if they did, it would be a VERY long way from any fair exchange, given the traffic levels)? Does Tescos have big signs up saying "shop at Sainsburys"?

This is a business. That is a business. My concern is about ensuring that I'm able to pay my staff each month, and not in giving a competitor free publicity just because this place is hugely more successful than they are.

If they were the friends you're claiming for them, they'd have made a friendly approach, and not spammed these forums very many times and then moaned about it to any who'll listen that we're being "unfair".

They *expected* efestivals to give them free advertising; if efestivals does that there is no efestivals, and no free advertising for them anyway.

[eFestivals]

Such a predictable and sad response... what has happened to this forum?

This forum is being run in *EXACTLY* the same way that it has been for over ten years now.

If anything has happened, it's in your head and not here.

Surely you generate revenue with every page view, no?

no.

This story generated a lot of page views last night - and indeed today - is this not good for your business?

No. I'm the one in the place to make that judgement, not you.

Perhaps your business is doing so well that you can afford to turn down ad revenue - in which case I take my hat off to you, Sir.

this business is doing less than 50% as well as it could otherwise be - IF I was one of the many shisters that takes money to put bullshit in front of your eyes like just about all others do.

This site does something turn down ad revenue. However, that's not applicable in the least in this instance, because no offer has been made to be turned down.

Frankly as long as the post is regarding festivals then you should allow it and revel in the revenue it generates you.

Right. And will you be also be advising Tesco's to allow Sainsbury's staff to walk aroubnd their stores saying "shop at Sainsbury's instead"?

You're talking cock.

By banning users and publications you alienate people, damage your reputation and reduce the size of your universe.

by not having spammers of any sort the smooth flow of these forums isn't interupted, and people's reading of them is enhanced. You are not in any place to make any informed judgement.

This is protectionism in its ugliest form.

The only protectionism going on here is the same protectionism as every other business operates. The protectionism that allows my staff to pay their mortages, to feed their children and themselves, and not have to be going to the job centre instead.

Go tell your 'friends' to put efestivals on their website in a prominent place, and do come back and tell me when they've done it. .... cos only then will your ill-informed rant have any accuracy.

[Langdale Wolf]

Frankly as long as the post is regarding festivals then you should allow it and revel in the revenue it generates you. By banning users and publications you alienate people, damage your reputation and reduce the size of your universe.