my line-up 2010

[tomisnothere]

I'm not arguing semantics, I've shown you that a website called it a triumph and defining moment in the band's history which I and my friends would agree with - not to mention all the people around us who were having as great time; this is far from a slating. I know some people weren't happy but you can't say the majority were disapointed, there is just no proof.

Edited November 29, 2009 by tomisnothere

[thomasowen]

The large majority didn't criticise too much, but a fair number did, more than I had expected at least. I don't need to provide proof for something which is an impression from my perspective.

[tomisnothere]

a tiny proportion criticized - people are just more likely to speak out when they are disapointed, and remember there were 40,000 odd people watching The Monkeys, even if you spoke to 100 people who slated the performance thats still an awful lot who's opinion is unknown. My point is exactly that it is from your perepective because from my perspective they were very well recieved - there is no way of knowing the opinion of everyone in the audience.

[thomasowen]

Fair enough, but if I make an argument based on my perspective, why try to prove it wrong?

[scottt]

But thomasowen, its a festival. Does that not change everything? Alot of people aren't huge AM fans but they show up, cause theyve paid £200. They want to chill and listen to a decent band play some songs they know and enjoy. When they dont play these songs, theyre gonna get a bit pissed off.

As for the set, I didnt think it was very good. Nothing to do with the set list, i just thought it was a very boring performance.

[thomasowen]

But thomasowen, its a festival. Does that not change everything? Alot of people aren't huge AM fans but they show up, cause theyve paid £200. They want to chill and listen to a decent band play some songs they know and enjoy. When they dont play these songs, theyre gonna get a bit pissed off.

As for the set, I didnt think it was very good. Nothing to do with the set list, i just thought it was a very boring performance.

Edited November 29, 2009 by thomasowen

[tomisnothere]

Becuase you were making it seem as if they were badly recieved universaly by using words like 'slated' and 'The problem that the majority of people had with the set is a fair chunk of it was unknown', and as an Arctic Monkeys fan I feel I should defend their corner

[thomasowen]

With Arctic Monkeys, they've such a well-known catalogue - I'm not just talking singles, the album songs are even well known by casual fans. Mardy Bum being a key example!

[tomisnothere]

They played 11 songs from their first two albums, how much more did you expect them to play?!

Edited November 30, 2009 by tomisnothere

[thomasowen]

I didn't! I really enjoyed it! You're seriously misunderstanding.

I wasn't talking about myself though!

You might want to read through my posts again. At no point did I say "I think this was wrong, they shouldn't have done this, I would've preferred it if they did this.." or anything of the sort. For me, there was nothing wrong with the setlist. From the beginning, I've been discussing other people's views and why (to me) a large number of people didn't seem as pleased as I would've expected, and then looking into why this happened.

You've completely misunderstood if you think my opinion is that they should've played more old songs and that I'm slating them. It was an incredible performance for me, perhaps not for others though. All I'm doing is deciphering why other people might not have enjoyed it.

In case you still don't believe me - I'm a massive Arctic Monkeys fan, but the reaction and response I saw at Reading/Leeds wasn't the reaction I'm used to them getting. For me, it was flawless, but I can see why other people may not have enjoyed it so much. That doesn't mean I'm bashing Arctic Monkeys - I'm not. I much prefer it when bands perform sets like they did, but I'm also not naive enough to think it's everyone's cup of tea. I'm willing to accept that.

[thetime]

in the end of the day people want bands to do there hits at festivals, but am have something like 8 or 9 singles so its not going to take einstein to realise this will take up about 30mins of the set with an hour of fill for alot of the crowd.

people think bands play festivals because they love them, for the fans etc etc. Usually they are there to plug a new album so of course its going to be top heavy of the new album.

You only have to look at placebo!

[Vacant0]

What a ridiculously protacted discussion.

[tomisnothere]

I get that you were talking about how other people viewed the setlist you just confused me when you started talking about them being slated, and then saying a band can be slated by one person.

[thomasowen]

I'd already said before..

I didn't use the word out of place, basically. Nothing deceptive about it.

[tomisnothere]

Jesus. It's a word. Do you argue for the sake of arguing or is there an important point you want to make?

From my perspective, they were slated by a significant amount of people. There you go.

[thomasowen]

Jesus. It's a word. Do you argue for the sake of arguing or is there an important point you want to make?

From my perspective, they were slated by a significant amount of people. There you go.

[tomisnothere]

...and my point's that they were. So I beg to differ.

[thomasowen]

...and my point's that they were. So I beg to differ.

[scottt]

Fair enough, you have no proof for this but you have the right to say it.

[thomasowen]

you have no proof they wasnt

[scottt]

No I don't but I think I have as good an idea as anyone about how a band has been recieved on these boards, on other message boards and in magazines and newspapers. As I said it's a fair comment to say Razorlight were slated (tiny audience, terrible reviews, very negative reaction on here) but Arctic Monkeys had a huge audience, excelent reviews and at worst a mixed reaction on these boards. It wasn't what I would call a slating.

[rexclark]

I check in here every day to see if there's anything interesting going on but it's the same old yawnfest. Keep up the good work lads.

[pigshair123]

I'm judging on the people I came across, not magazine reviews. Sure, loads liked it, but loads seemed to not like it too. I heard more negative opinions of them than any other band that weekend, mainly people feeling let down.

I didn't mind that they played new songs - I really enjoyed the whole set. I could see why people wouldn't though. Humbug does take a new direction, one which not everyone warmed to.

It had only legally been released for a week, was it? Not everyone downloads leaked albums, the majority of people don't download leaked albums. Not everyone is into the downloading culture. While popular, it hasn't completely taken over.

[jonnyx]

I check in here every day to see if there's anything interesting going on but it's the same old yawnfest. Keep up the good work lads.

[rexclark]

Yeah, if only they'd gone and seen the FNM, and the Gossip instead.

They were f**king brilliant.