Mephedrone

[Walter Sobchak]

What is it all about? Some guy tried to sell me some at the SC.

[Singularity]

drugs are bad

Edited July 23, 2009 by Singularity

[Messy]

its not really legal, but more legal than the other drugs around. Apparently has a clean high like a mild E and is pretty safe to mix with alchohol. Do not recommend doing more than 1/2 gram at a time.

if you get caught with it and it gets tested it shows up as an amphetamine which is class B i think.

hope you read this before it gets taken down

[Walter Sobchak]

its not really legal, but more legal than the other drugs around. Apparently has a clean high like a mild E and is pretty safe to mix with alchohol. Do not recommend doing more than 1/2 gram at a time.

if you get caught with it and it gets tested it shows up as an amphetamine which is class B i think.

hope you read this before it gets taken down

[LusciousLucy]

YUP! Cant remember if it was lone or drone...no idea! Feckin psychonauts! Have ruined festivals I tell ya!

WHEN DID PURCHASING FUN BECOME ALGEBRA???

[grandadcollective]

There was a time when grandadcollective used to find it easy and enjoyable to just get high and dance all night. When did things become so complicated? Elation seems a long way away these days and the road to it is fraught with danger, potholes, dips and side roads that lead nowhere as apposed to the good old days when they often led somewhere more interesting and the only thing you didn't want to mix with was alcohol.

[Billy09]

From what I understand it's one of a variety of synthetic designer drugs that are similar to amphetamine and only legal because the law has not caught up yet. It's sold for research purposes, not for human consumption (right.....).

Don't blame the manufacturer when things go wrong, as it is untested.

Most of you like ethanol (alcohol). Did you know that there is a similar untaxed cheap molecule called methanol that'll get you drunk? Downside is that it causes blindness.

Before the fest there was a thread about legal highs I contributed to talking about a synthetic opiate made in the 70s. Bad news was that it gave the users Parkinsons syndrome, good news was that medical understanding of Park's was massively advanced.

I don't know whether you're better off taking "MDMA" cut with god knows what, or pure Mephedrome, but just cause it's legal don't make it safe.

Edited July 23, 2009 by dr_billy

[Storm_NL]

Most of you like ethanol (alcohol). Did you know that there is a similar untaxed cheap molecule called methanol that'll get you drunk? Downside is that it causes blindness.

[Josie's Cat]

That was me talking about the Parkinson's! I think.

The untested thing is a bit of a worry. It's all very well for Albert Hoffman to take a load of his homemade LSD and go off for a bike ride, but just taking stuff shipped over from a lab in China on the off chance it will be fun is a bit different.

It's mainly a money making exercise, people trying to get round the bloody stupid drug laws.

[Storm_NL]

....but just taking stuff shipped over from a lab in China on the off chance it will be fun is a bit different.

[Billy09]

I think the relevant questions here are;

How blind?

How soon?

How much?

(and which local school doesn't lock their lab up properly at night?)

[Storm_NL]

available from your local garage as antifreeze.

[King Blue]

It certainly isn't a festival drug. To quote Super Hands, its really moreish-you'd spend a every half hour searching for a toilet to top up in. On the plus side, the taste is so foul that it'd probably block out the stench of shit from your nose.

The stuffs impact on your mental state for the next day or two afterwards is horrible, easily transcending the decent high. You will slump into a despairing spiral of nihilism and despair, and not even the kind that can be softly eased by going to watch some melancholic music, the gut wrenching kind that'll leave you lost to the world as you quietly state into the synthetic walls of your tent wondering what's the ****ing point.

I wouldn't touch it at a festival, even when putting aside the more sensible medical reasons offered by people on this thread.

[Arriente]

I had some at this years fest & had a great time on it. Had virtually no come down or negative feeling whatsoever.

[beergut100]

It certainly isn't a festival drug. To quote Super Hands, its really moreish-you'd spend a every half hour searching for a toilet to top up in. On the plus side, the taste is so foul that it'd probably block out the stench of shit from your nose.

The stuffs impact on your mental state for the next day or two afterwards is horrible, easily transcending the decent high. You will slump into a despairing spiral of nihilism and despair, and not even the kind that can be softly eased by going to watch some melancholic music, the gut wrenching kind that'll leave you lost to the world as you quietly state into the synthetic walls of your tent wondering what's the ****ing point.

I wouldn't touch it at a festival, even when putting aside the more sensible medical reasons offered by people on this thread.

Edited July 24, 2009 by beergut100

[Lucanesque]

Bumping this thread because of the front page of the Metro today... another death linked to mephedrone and calls on the Government to ban it.

So would people still take it with a) more evidence linking to harm, and if the Government do ban it?

(BTW, I personally wouldn't, but my view is that it is all about choices, so I'm not trying to preach etc.)

[theleedslads]

Some people take drugs... some people die...

Thats how it works, ive taken alot of mephedrone and been ok on it.

However its very moreish and puts you in a bit of a zombie like state if your snorting it all the time, but thats abuse so expected.

Expect the low online prices to fall even thurther before the ban, before being heavily cut and sold more on the street where it becomes more dangerous and.... MORE DEATHS!

Making a substance illegal does no good.

[Ed209]

Some people take drugs... some people die...

Thats how it works, ive taken alot of mephedrone and been ok on it.

However its very moreish and puts you in a bit of a zombie like state if your snorting it all the time, but thats abuse so expected.

Expect the low online prices to fall even thurther before the ban, before being heavily cut and sold more on the street where it becomes more dangerous and.... MORE DEATHS!

Making a substance illegal does no good.

[laid back in the sun]

While I agree with the fact you could end up getting more dangerous stuff on the street, making it illegal does reduce usage. Just take mushrooms as an example, before the ban anyone could buy them from a local bong shop and loads of people, including myself, were taking mushrooms all the time. Now, apart from at festivals, in my experience its virtually impossible to find shrooms .... which SUCKS! But you can understand why the government did it.

[st00ka]

There's was a pretty even handed report about legal highs in the Guardian a few weeks back which includes methadrone.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/oct...atom-head-shops

The Metro's reporting this morning was pretty disgraceful, Girl 14, Killed by Legal Net Drug was the headline but the article reports that she had been drinking and had also taken ketamine and that the autopsy had shown no conclusive results.

[abu hamster]

It certainly isn't a festival drug. To quote Super Hands, its really moreish-you'd spend a every half hour searching for a toilet to top up in. On the plus side, the taste is so foul that it'd probably block out the stench of shit from your nose.

The stuffs impact on your mental state for the next day or two afterwards is horrible, easily transcending the decent high. You will slump into a despairing spiral of nihilism and despair, and not even the kind that can be softly eased by going to watch some melancholic music, the gut wrenching kind that'll leave you lost to the world as you quietly state into the synthetic walls of your tent wondering what's the ****ing point.

I wouldn't touch it at a festival, even when putting aside the more sensible medical reasons offered by people on this thread.

[st00ka]

Here take this Ive made it from dried bleech, those green blocks you find in urinals that have been crushed up and acid.

[Okky]

DRUGS FTW

[Lucanesque]

The Metro's reporting this morning was pretty disgraceful, Girl 14, Killed by Legal Net Drug was the headline but the article reports that she had been drinking and had also taken ketamine and that the autopsy had shown no conclusive results.

[sammysundae]

if you're willing to risk your health for a cheap but intense thrill with mephedrone than that is completely up to you. imo.

i'm willing to risk mine cos for a lot of people its the dangerous times that make the safe times worth while

just a shame that miserable people who have no idea they're talking about have to runi everything for everyone.

did you know before they were criminalised most scientists recommended that mentally sound people above the age of 18 should try LSD and MDMA at least once, for the benefit of their emotional development. i honestly couldn't agree more. yes, there would be problems, but the world would be a so much better place.

legalise, regulate and tax the lot. watch a beautiful new world appear in front of your eyes immediately.