am i the only one who hopes

[worm]

Wormy wormy wormy

Read this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Wales

[AndrewD]

Although of course no libel actions have ever been raised because of these snoozefests

[worm]

No, that's very interesting, but the spread of ideas outwards from a central point is not culture, that's promulgation of views/norms either by persuasion or force. If you're talking about the shape of urban environments, that is not culture, that is vernacular architecture (which incidentally Wales has/had and Australia does not).

[Radar]

No there isn't.

This is because they are part of the diaspora, which means exactly that. That they are all regionally specific.

[worm]

The Vatican City. That seems to carry on with it's dogma regardless of what is actually happening in the real world.

[sifi]

hmmmm?

[oafc0000]

Tigger, tigger, tigger read this

Click!

[Kowalski]

Wormy wormy wormy

Read this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Wales

[Radar]

They are all part of culture.

[worm]

You're going to have to do better than a flat denial, unless you're just trying to wind me up.

Oh marvellous, yes a diaspora or scattering of equally featureless cultures which are REAL cultures because Mr Cultural Studies says they are!

[ben_cosmia]

I don't know what is going on. But it's a mess. And it's something to do with arguments on the t-in-the-park. And lawyers.

[DrDoolittle]

I used to like fish fingers but not so much now.

[ronaldo]

Although of course no libel actions have ever been raised because of these snoozefests

[Radar]

Is this what the women of Wales look like?

[worm]

What makes that more right than wiki ??

[King Blue]

That's traditional dress. It looks better in colour.

Meanwhile I don't see you kicking this Welsh beauty out of bed...

[Radar]

Now now. You contradicted me, so I returned the contradiction.

The thing with a diaspora is that there is no national body of literture. What was your point?

[worm]

The fact is there are elements of culture which pertain to the national identity "Welshness" - meaning that a "Welsh culture" can be identified and spoken of.

[Radar]

Because anyone can say 'the culture of wales' and then define what it means. That doesn't make it an authentic culture. However, the book I've just referred you to is the greatest authority in the world on this subject. It will tell you exactly why nationalism and national identity is not an authentic basis for a culture. Look at the failure of nationalist regimes in their bid to sustain a purely national culture. They needed totalitarian systems, which ultimately failed, because other cultural systems will have an impact upon the peripheries* (*similar to borders, but more fluid in meaning).

[worm]

My point is that there are certain pre-requisites for the identification of a culture, one of which in my opinion is works of literature. If you can point to me some oral epic tradition amongst Australian tribes, maybe then I will concede that they have a culture.

Edited August 5, 2008 by worm

[oafc0000]

Because anyone can say 'the culture of wales' and then define what it means. That doesn't make it an authentic culture. However, the book I've just referred you to is the greatest authority in the world on this subject. It will tell you exactly why nationalism and national identity is not an authentic basis for a culture. Look at the failure of nationalist regimes in their bid to sustain a purely national culture. They needed totalitarian systems, which ultimately failed, because other cultural systems will have an impact upon the peripheries* (*similar to borders, but more fluid in meaning).

[ronaldo]

What kind of bees make milk?

BOOBIES

[worm]

Does it matter if different but similar cultures partake and have partaken (partook?) of each other? Does this make them invalid? Is it not surprising that there would be extensive cultural exchange within Europe (for example) and significantly less in Australasia?

Edited August 5, 2008 by worm

[worm]

When you say its the greatest authority in the world on the subject...who gave it that title ??

So the vast majority of people on here and no doubt in the UK belive there is such thing as a welsh culture....yet your book says there isnt so thats it...done and dusted

Edited August 5, 2008 by worm

[Radar]

The classical singer right? Her,Zeta Jones and Charlotte Church are absolutely stunning.Wouldn't mind the woman from Torchwood either. Welsh women are actually quite fine.